[Zarxrax]

Yes, due to the unending insistence from SSGWNBTD (the co-creator of this series), I finally gave in and decided to roll with it. Full details can be found here: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=930287

[Drenaz]

Yay! :D

[cyborg]

Awsome, I've been meaning to do this for a while
BTW, what do you consider anime? does south park count?

[Drenaz]

Awsome, I've been meaning to do this for a while
BTW, what do you consider anime? does south park count?


I think only Japanese anime counts, Don't think South park would qualify as an anime :wink: But i guess sound tracks from south park are alright

[Micki!]

That's just damn sweet... I should do some wierd videos then... :)
I look forward to make some stuff with Excel Saga... If i DO make them :oops:



Awsome, I've been meaning to do this for a while
BTW, what do you consider anime? does south park count?


I think only Japanese anime counts, Don't think South park would qualify as an anime :wink: But i guess sound tracks from south park are alright

Perhaps the episode where they make fun of pokemon... And then rolling in the title song for Pokemon while they do something fitting... It might be alright if the cartoon makes fun of Anime

Has to be decided if it's ok though...

[P.T]

Finally! :D

[Phatpug]

Oh my Gahd, I'm sooo happy! I'm going to start editing some clips right away!

[Vash87]

Can anyone contribute a scene of two?

[Zarxrax]

Can anyone contribute a scene of two?
Yes, as it says on there, it's open to anyone to submit entries, though not all entries will appear in the final project.

[sindon007]

awesome, amvhell4 :D i got a few idea's i'll give it a shot also.

[FouCapitan]

Augh! This means I gotta get up off my ass and work on something!

[krvabo]

Great :D
Let's see if I can cook something up... :)

[yokou seishirou]

Well Looks like for the next year I'll be making videos for this.

[ZephyrStar]

\o/

[jak5255]

:D wohoo :D
hope i can make something to contribute with





BTW,if some1 dont have their hands full with this,maybe u can help with the deleted scenes credits in my topic.
apprecieating (huh?, that wasn't spelled right,nvm) info for both 3 & 0.

[Holic]

........Realy? I mean is this true, THE real AMV Hell 4??




make it at least 4h long.....and as good as the n?3!!!



by the way, did the anime of Azumanga Dahio get licenced, if not, where can Iget it? (Fr)

[X the Great]

........Realy? I mean is this true, THE real AMV Hell 4??




make it at least 4h long.....and as good as the n?3!!!



by the way, did the anime of Azumanga Dahio get licenced, if not, where can Iget it? (Fr)

[link removed] (yes, it's licensed)

It's a torrent and has 26 episodes, I found it like 10 minutes prior to this,
^ ^, so yeah.

Also, I have some good ideas for some parts, but have nearly no anime at my disposal... only Naruto 1-25, Bleach, and Project Arms for now... So if anyone can recommend a good editing program and a nice actiony-as-**** anime let me know.

[Phatpug]

Since this is the ultra-mega-super-duper-chocolate covered last addition to the amv series, what is the estimated length? An hour, perhaps two?

[Maethur]

[quote="Holic"]

So if anyone can recommend a good editing program and a nice actiony-as-**** anime let me know.

i've grown quite fond of Sony Vegas.. its easy to learn and you can do most things on the evaluation

or if you wanna learn adobe premiere... its a little harder to use but you can do more with it

[Micki!]

Man, i wanted to contribute, but i have no idea how to put DVD's "into" the PC...
i assume ripping the DVD's is way to go, but isn't that illigal..?
And i heard Ripping DVD's take pretty much time... is there something else i can do to make my DVD movies appear on my PC..?

All 6 DVD's of Excel Saga will probably take QUITE some time.. :?

Anyways, i'm looking VERY much forward to see what people will make for AMV Hell 4... :)

[Phatpug]

Man, i wanted to contribute, but i have no idea how to put DVD's "into" the PC...
i assume ripping the DVD's is way to go, but isn't that illigal..?
And i heard Ripping DVD's take pretty much time... is there something else i can do to make my DVD movies appear on my PC..?

Ripping doesn't take much time at all. I copy the video files straight to my computer as .vob files then convert them to .avi files. As for your question if it's illegal, it depends. If you own the DVDs then no it isn't. You can't put them up on the internet for people to download, and you can't put it up on any P2P programs. They are only intended for home use. If you went to the rental store and copied them straight to your computer then returned them the next day then that would be illegal. There may be other ways to capture it to your computer by getting a video capture card and playing it from your TV, but that would be more time consuming than just ripping it (for me at least). Hope that helped out :P

[Anonymous]

YO, Bender thinks that all the hookers should hop into my pimpmobile to go pick daisys, EROTICALLY. 8)
_______________________________________
Gonna enjoy a new AMV Hell!!!!! :D

[Zalnier]

Man, i wanted to contribute, but i have no idea how to put DVD's "into" the PC...
i assume ripping the DVD's is way to go, but isn't that illigal..?
And i heard Ripping DVD's take pretty much time... is there something else i can do to make my DVD movies appear on my PC..?

All 6 DVD's of Excel Saga will probably take QUITE some time.. :?

Anyways, i'm looking VERY much forward to see what people will make for AMV Hell 4... :)


look for a program called "DVD Decrypter" ... it's free and easy to use .. but quality might take a little hit.

[bender248]

I can try and help if I got time during the weekend :)

[Phatpug]

When ripping and/or converting, one of the main things to look out for is the little DivX logo in the bottom right hand screen. If you are wanting to make clips for AMV hell 4, omitting the DivX logo is one of the rules...along with the creator's logo.

[Micki!]

Well thank you alot Phatpug :)

I have another question, as i would not like massive decreased video quality
Would anyone care telling me which exact programs you'd recomend for use of all this (ripping, decrypting or whatever is all needed)
Is "DVD Decrypter" what you guys use..?

Also, for actual video editing, i have only Windows Movie Maker 2... This program/piece of garbage is not much of my taste, as it seems to decrease quality too greatly whatever i do...

I might get Magix Movie Maker... at least that program is more fair with quality, and has alot more usefull features
Unless anyone can suggest anything better (as long as it's free, i'm going for it)

[Phatpug]

Programs I use:

WinAVI ---> to covert .vob files into .avi format. If you get this program watch out because the DivX logo goes on there unless you pay for it...I think. I found a way to do it without getting the DivX logo but I'm not on that computer and I don't remember what it was :roll:. As for your quality, it depends how you convert it. Before you convert your vob files (if you are using my method that is) you should be able to go into the advance options and mess around with the quality settings.

Vegas 7.0b is my editing software (as well as some other programs like adobe after effects, etc.) And no this program isn't free nor is it cheap *cough* $600 *cough* (thank you school :D). This editing software is easy to learn and it's professional editing software. Do your research...

If you're looking for free programs...you get what you "paid" for.

Hope that helps

[Micki!]

Hmm, i wouldn't want some logo to destroy anything i make... i'll look into that later...

As for editing software... i guess it's easier just to lend the software a friend of mine has... :)

That price is scary...

[AccidentalChaos]

Hiya, I'm trying to have a go at this now ^^. I managed to make my movie and everything, but the one thing throwing me off in the rules is:
'- Audio must be stored as UNCOMPRESSED'

What exactly does this mean and what do I need to do? Many many thanks in advanced- and some free air to whoever answers ^^;

[Phatpug]

Audio must be stored as UNCOMPRESSED

What exactly does this mean and what do I need to do

Hope this helps...

Uncompressed audio formats (often referred to as PCM formats) are just as the name suggests ? formats that use no compression. This means all the data is available, at the risk of large file sizes.

It's just some basic editing terminology. All I know about audio is that there are three formats: Uncompressed, lossless, and lossy. Uncompressed is the way to go.

[Micki!]

Are we suposed to send in our video with the audio seperately..?

[AccidentalChaos]

Thanks phatpug ^^. And yeah, do we have to send it seperately? Does that mean I should avoid using the same audio in the AMV?

[Phatpug]

do we have to send it seperately? Does that mean I should avoid using the same audio in the AMV?

No, edit your video just like a normal AMV and assure your video meets all of the technical guidelines. From Zarxrax's server on the FTP client, the only files I've noticed people uploading were their AMVs along with a .txt file.

(Uploading Information)
http://amvhell.com/hell4uploads.html

[Chewy]

My girlfriend and I are hoping to edit a segment to add to AMV Hell 4. Is it possible for us to submit it?

mappy4prez@yahoo.com

[Zarxrax]

My girlfriend and I are hoping to edit a segment to add to AMV Hell 4. Is it possible for us to submit it?
mappy4prez@yahoo.com
If you read the post linked from the main page, it has all the info...

[Valid]

Ok about the no subtitle rule, i'm using the episode where Shinji and Asuka need to do a synchronized attack, so at the bottom of the screen there is a timer, do i need to edit this out?

[Phatpug]

if it goes with your song then leave it in. If it's in the anime and has nothing to do with the song or the amv, I'd take it out. It can be a real distraction if it doesn't go with your amv.

[Sensei Le Roof]

Is #4 gonna be added to the Perfect Collection?

[Zarxrax]

Is #4 gonna be added to the Perfect Collection?

No, there will be a new dvd.

[Phatpug]

Awesome! I'm hoping there will be bonus features of deleted scenes and other poo like that. Pretty similar to the last one...which I haven't downloaded yet :roll:

[Arobo]

I screwed up the FTP so now my haruhi AMV is half-uploaded and now I can't reupload or delete it. True story.

[Phatpug]

What FTP program were you using? If I were you I'd use CoreFTP; it's free :) Also if it stops then just click and drag the same file over again. There should be an option where you can overwrite, or resume. You should be able to resume the file...that is if you didn't make any modifications to your file.

[Arobo]

What FTP program were you using? If I were you I'd use CoreFTP; it's free :) Also if it stops then just click and drag the same file over again. There should be an option where you can overwrite, or resume. You should be able to resume the file...that is if you didn't make any modifications to your file.

I used Filezilla. It's fine now, someone with delete permissions took care of it.

[Zarxrax]

What FTP program were you using? If I were you I'd use CoreFTP; it's free :) Also if it stops then just click and drag the same file over again. There should be an option where you can overwrite, or resume. You should be able to resume the file...that is if you didn't make any modifications to your file.

People should be able to resume. I cant add overwrite support because quite frankly a lot of the people uploading stuff dont know what the hell they are doing, and there is a big risk someone would go and delete everyone else's videos :\

If you need to resend something, just rename it first.

[Ikari]

is there a file upload limit? I mean my Amv(im uploading it at the moment)is 606 Mb?s big
I hope there is nothing

[Zarxrax]

is there a file upload limit? I mean my Amv(im uploading it at the moment)is 606 Mb?s big
I hope there is nothing

There is no limit, but many people claim to have problems getting cut off, and not being able to resume. You may be better off putting it inside a RAR archive spanning multiple files.

[Ikari]

i can?t put it into a rar file i have a mac and i dont see a .rar file encoder for mac

[Ikari]

it?s too late. i can?t delet it from the server-.-.(I finished the half)
**** over night(I live in germany)he says that he cant find a connection to the server. I can?t finish-.-
please can you delete the folder "Ikari" from the ftp
please the two folders:"Ikari" and" Ikari"
by the second ordner my dad shotoff my com by uploading-.-

[!Je$u$!]

AMV HELL 4??? GODLIKE!!!! Thats cool and that also means i have to start working on a clip to send in but I actually have to study. But hey F@#k it! That can wait! I cant remember when entrys for hell 4 stop, i think its in august (correct me if iam wrong)

[Thurseday]

I wanna wannaa WANNNA!!!!

L_angelic_misfortune_l@yahoo.com

Please give me a chance!!!

[Phatpug]

I wanna wannaa WANNNA!!!!

L_angelic_misfortune_l@yahoo.com

Please give me a chance!!!

Are you saying that you want a chance to be in it? Read these and follow the guidelines...

http://amvhell.com/hell4uploads.html
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=930287

Hope that helps

[Surly Squid]

I had some problems uploading too, but I downloaded FileZilla and it worked fine. Just so you know, don't use FlashFXP. It doesn't seem to work well with this server for some reason... Anyway you should be able to figure out which files are the right ones. Btw I'm new here, I really like AMV Hell, I think I saw it a long time ago but I didn't know that you were working on a 4th one, otherwise I would've been working on some AMVs since day one. I have a lot of experience editing videos because I used to do a lot with Halo 2 machinima. Yep, thats about it :D

[Phatpug]

Ugh...I'm about to rip my eyes out...I spent at least 7 hours editing a 28 second video, but it's okay because I have a feeling it will make it in ^^

[Surly Squid]

Ugh...I'm about to rip my eyes out...I spent at least 7 hours editing a 28 second video, but it's okay because I have a feeling it will make it in ^^

Well if it took you that long then it must be pretty good. I probably spent more time downloading programs and converting files then I did actually editing my two videos, a 20 second and a 9 second. I think I did a pretty good job with editing them though, and after all the idea is probably more important than the editing. I really liked the idea for one of mine but I'm not sure if the other one was quite as good. Ideas are the hardest part in my opinion. :D

[Phatpug]

Well if it took you that long then it must be pretty good.
Well, it was kinda hard because I didn't have internet at the time to help me get the things I really needed. Really the most annoying parts was editing a poopload of stuff in photoshop and lip-syncing. I think I remember seeing your name on the FTP server.

Hopefully the list will be updated soon and more of my clips will be on there...oh and you too I guess :lol:

[ElvenRamza]

I'm sorry if this has been answered before in this thread. I have a headache and it hurts my head to read anything for more then a few seconds.

Can we use songs already used before on other AMV Hells. 'Cause I had some song ideas that thought would almost definatly not be used. Then I saw
AMV Hell 0 and the one song I thought would never be used "I'm not a ****ing drag queen" ended up being on there.

[Zarxrax]

You can try using a song that has been used before, but that would be a strike against your vid, meaning its less likely that we would use it than a video with another song.

[Anonymous]

Alright thanks.

[Phatpug]

I know the opening will be good, or at least so it's been for the others. I'm curious as to if the song is going to be by AC/DC again. In amvhell 3 it was Highway to hell...maybe this one could be hells bells or something

[The Real Inferno]

It could always be shots of anime characters playing guitar set with the Guitar Hero color coding scroll in front of it, that would be awesome. Or maybe I'm insane. Probably both.

[Krillin The Villin]

haha awsome, well im down and will toss in some of my cards soon i think, i saw the amv.org people spammin the crap out of it, but im still banned from there(8th time for haveing a voice) and would rather post here.

If ya need any help im sure ither me or Yoko will help with viewing and or help toss in some ideas for setup or whatnot, let me know, headin to Chicago in 2 weeks though to run an amv contest and some amv/anime help pannels so let me know soon.

also random thinking side note, im well versed in html/java/php and been a forum admin forever on 12 sites 1 of witch has 4,800 members and has upto 200 posts a night.

[Phatpug]

Is there an estimated release date for this project? Knowing you guys this will probably be released on Halloween or something. I've been telling my friends that's when it's probably going to be released, but I NOTED PROBABLY lol :lol:

[psylentlarry]

Hi,
Hope I'm not out of line with this, being I'm just a salivating fan rather than creative talent...

Having experienced exhibiting AMVh3 in a somewhat unpredictably noisy environment (see burningman.com) I have one request for AMVh4:

If possible, it would be helpful if the sound levels could be more consistent from segment to segment.

This is probably not as noticeable in a less whacked out environment. In my situation, I'm striving to keep the movie sound from being wiped out by surrounding cacophony, and at the same time not fry our audience's ears. I do try to ride gain on the sound during AMVh3, but it's not as easy as it sounds. It's a distracting environment. :)

I realize getting the levels in line may be a technical challenge (or perhaps just a colossal pain in the ass), seeing as the levels in the submissions will be naturally be all over the place. (I had some video put together by a friend who does editing, and the editing software's feature for automatically adjusting sound level turned out to be amazingly useless. So I can appreciate that sound levels might be something that is not easily tackled on a project of this size.)

Oh well, I'll shut up now. Tried to frame this as a suggestion rather than a bitch, hope it reads that way. Seeing as I haven't run across anyone else mentioning it, it probably does seem bitchy. :( oops.

PS. I'm thrilled spitless that 4 is on the way, and will be happy to get it whatever way it comes. Also very happy that non-song audio is back in the mix. I think it works very well to break up the songs here and there. I was missing that in CE. Looking forward to hosting amv hell 4 at burning man '08!

thanks,
larry

[Zarxrax]

Yea, I tried to keep the audio levels in 3 as consistent as possible, it just didnt work out too well :\

[Zalnier]

Is there an estimated release date for this project? Knowing you guys this will probably be released on Halloween or something. I've been telling my friends that's when it's probably going to be released, but I NOTED PROBABLY lol :lol:

AWA13?
(mid to late September)

would be a great place to premier it!!
this is one director heavy con and would be a great place for a good % of the contributors to see there work in public for the first time.

as far as i know it was the first place AMV HELL 3 and 0 where publicly premiered.
(i was running the block in VAT room where 0 first aired LAWL)

i have no official word but if i were a betting man my money would go here.

[Zacks]

Is there a way for me to edit out logos from my footage to make it appropriate for submission, or am I just screwed?

[Zarxrax]

Is there a way for me to edit out logos from my footage to make it appropriate for submission, or am I just screwed?
Your screwed.

[Phatpug]

Is there a way for me to edit out logos from my footage to make it appropriate for submission, or am I just screwed?
Hence the reason why you shouldn't have deleted your project files for at least a month...and you should have read the rules and guidelines

You still have a week left to try to fix it!

[Zacks]

I was actually referring to the DivX logos...


look for a program called "DVD Decrypter" ... it's free and easy to use .. but quality might take a little hit.

I picked this program up, but when I rip the dvds they are translated into a format that can't be read by WMM. Can I fix this?

Thanks.

[Phatpug]

I was actually referring to the DivX logos...
Ahhh, the dreaded DivX logo...

Well I can tell you how to get rid of that. Follow my instructions

Start button-->All Programs-->DivX-->DivX Codec-->Decoder Configuration Utility

From here there should be 3 tabs at the top. Click on the tab called Toolbar. From there just uncheck the "Show DivX waterlogo mark" option. Yeah, it's so simple and yet alot of people don't know how to do it xD.

As for your other problem! Sry I have no clue :roll: :?:

[The Real Inferno]

I was actually referring to the DivX logos...


look for a program called "DVD Decrypter" ... it's free and easy to use .. but quality might take a little hit.

I picked this program up, but when I rip the dvds they are translated into a format that can't be read by WMM. Can I fix this?

Thanks.

You need DGI Index and VirtualDubMod to convert your .vob files into nice big .avi files

[Zacks]

Why both; what do they do individually?

[Coderjoe]

look for a program called "DVD Decrypter" ... it's free and easy to use .. but quality might take a little hit.
Why would quality take a hit from decrypting the VOBs? (unless



You need DGI Index and VirtualDubMod to convert your .vob files into nice big .avi files

Actually, I think VDubMod will open the VOB files directly, IF you don't want to do any processing such as IVTC anyway.


Why both; what do they do individually?
DGIndex will index the frames in the VOB files, allowing for easy frame-accurate access. It then outputs a .D2V file which lists the frame numbers, their byte position in the file, and other details needed to decode the frame properly.

You'd usually then feed that D2V file to AVISynth, which is a scripting language that allows you do do filtering and editing of video and audio data. You'd load the D2V file into AVISynth using Mpeg2Source (which is part of a plugin that comes with DGIndex), then you'd use one of many different methods to Inverse Telecine back to 23.976fps progressive source, and possibly do some color correction filters and possibly letterbox a widescreen source. This script won't do anything by itself, however. You need to load it into a program that asks AVISynth for frames and then saves them out.

VirtualDubMod is a linear editing and filtering program. You'd use this to open the VOB, D2V, or AVS file and write out an AVI file. It is based on a slightly simpler program named VirtualDub, which doesn't open VOB files, among other things.

[An AMV Hell Fan]

First off. Maaaajjooorrrr applause to all involed in the creation of the various AMV Hell vidoes. Looking forward to No.4

This has a strong following amongest people in Scotland. Anime crazed people that we are. lol

(Just as a suggestion, i know that as a mere fan i can't really contibute a great deal, however, perhaps you guys could throw a Lordi song into it somewhere?)

[Zarxrax]

(Just as a suggestion, i know that as a mere fan i can't really contibute a great deal, however, perhaps you guys could throw a Lordi song into it somewhere?)
I think it will be happening :)

[The Real Inferno]

God I ****ing love Lordi

[Nuke Mayhem]

Hello,
Nuke Mayhem, big fan of the series and first time poster here. When I heard about the 4th AMV Hell I wanted to try to make an advertisement for the film, but I need 2 things first...

1.The font you use for the series' titles.

2.To know if it's going to premier in 2007 or 2008.

[Zarxrax]

Thanks though we don't need any advertisements.
To answer your questions, the font is Rocky AOE and it is premiering this September at Anime Weekend Atlanta.

[Nuke Mayhem]

Well if you need flyer's or posters to give out at the Anime Weekend Atlanta here's something for ya.

They still need work, but I made two so far (and yes it's an edit of the Transformers teaser poster.)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/Nuke-Mayhem/amvh4.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/Nuke-Mayhem/amvh4-1.jpg

[Nuke Mayhem]

Made a third one and the "AMV Hell 4" title has now some 3D look to it.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/Nuke-Mayhem/amvh4.3.jpg

[Anonymous]

Well here's the finish version of all 3 posters I made (I might make more). I know you said you don't need them, but I made them for the fun of it. I'll try them out at and a few other anime forums.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/Nuke-Mayhem/amvh41.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/Nuke-Mayhem/amvh42.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/Nuke-Mayhem/amvh43.jpg


Also, I found some great songs for the movie's intro that fits the AMV Hell series' style.

Album:Aqua Team Hunger Force The movie soundtrack.
Songs: track 2 - "Groovy Time for a Movie Time", track 3 - "Cut You Up With a Linoleum Knife"

I say combine the songs, use digimon season 1 for the first song(Groovy Time), then use Hiruma Youichi (Eyeshield 21) for the first singer, and Naruto for the second singer ("If I see you video taping this movie...") for the second song.

You can hear the songs at this myspace page.
http://www.myspace.com/athfmusicpage

[Nuke Mayhem]

Sorry, didn't know I was logged out. :p

[Phatpug]

CORN!!!

[Nuke Mayhem]

Thanks though we don't need any advertisements.
To answer your questions, the font is Rocky AOE and it is premiering this September at Anime Weekend Atlanta.

*Sigh* Wish it was premier at this year's AnimeFest in Dallas, Texas.

[Phatpug]

CORN!!!

[Janzki]

Stop spamming already. :?

[Phatpug]

CORN!!!
I swear I didn't put those on here. One of my friends must have done it. I apologize :oops:

[Peksu]

For all of us that don't really have a chance to be at Atlanta premier(I happen to live in Finland), when will the downloadable video be made available?

[Zarxrax]

For all of us that don't really have a chance to be at Atlanta premier(I happen to live in Finland), when will the downloadable video be made available?
Shortly afterwards. Within 1 week most likely.

[Nuke Mayhem]

I'll be sure to show it at my anime club when it premiers online.

[Guest]

so, when are u going to update the list?? let me guess..a week before the premier

[Phatpug]

I remember them saying the first week of september

[guest]

I remember them saying the first week of september

oh ok

[purplepolecat]

<Z & SSG> AMV HELL 4, WHAT IS YOUR PROFESSION ?
<AMV HELL 4> USS ! USS ! USS!
<Z & SSG> You see, my friend...
<Z & SSG> I brought more editors than you did.

[Phatpug]

I will try to have a final list finished by sept 1, or at least 1-2 weeks before awa.
Well, September 1st is this saturday. Can we expect a final list update?

[squirle]

I'm guessing that when it would be shown on AWA that weekend. It won't be online the same weekend? (lan-party that weekend with some people that are waiting to see it :))

[Zarxrax]

Maybe, maybe not. Probably not. But maybe.
Or not.

[Anonymous]

TT__TT and of course I can't make it to AWA either

[Guest]

Will you post AMV Hell 4 on google video like AMV Hell 3?
thanks a lot,
i hope it goes well this weekend.
good luck.

[Phatpug]

Just to say Zarx,

IF you give out DVDs at AWA people will probably rip it and put it on the internet. But I'm guessing you don't care xD.

[Zalnier]

Just to say Zarx,

IF you give out DVDs at AWA people will probably rip it and put it on the internet. But I'm guessing you don't care xD.


sooner the better.

will save him the trouble of doing it Friday night. he can enjoy the con and worry about doing it when he gets home lol.

[Kronusdark]

Just curious but, what is the odds of being able to download AMV hell 4 tomorrow night? I was planning a small get together at my house to watch it since there is no way i could make it to AWA.

[Nightshiver]

Have you not read anything? AMV Hell 4 probably won't be available for download for another week or 2.

[Kronusdark]

actually i have but information has been conflicting... (i.e. the above posts about someone ripping the dvd vs the front page) i realize it will be a bit for an "Official" release but perhaps someone may post a video that people can watch while we wait for the final product

[Phatpug]

No, I was saying, if someone had the DVD from AWA the first thing they would do is go home and rip it; then put it on the internet. :twisted: I posted that before the update on the main page. I dunno if what I said provoked him to change his decision, but it doesn't really bother me xD