Zarxrax
02-19-2007, 12:56 AM
We receive a LOT of entries for AMV Hell 4. The vast majority of them get rejected almost immediately. Here are some tips to help make some videos that we might actually consider using:

1. Read the Rules.
A 5-year-old child could do a better job of following rules than the majority of people we receive entries from. In many cases, it is very clear that the submitter did not take the effort to read the clearly posted rules, and in some cases it seems like the person did not even understand the concept behind AMV Hell.

There are quite a few rules, but there are three in particular that get violated a lot and I consider them to be the most serious. For starters, submit your video in AVI format using the recommended codecs and at 640x480 resolution. If you send me a video thats in WMV format, or 320x240 resolution, I am seriously not even going to watch it. It just goes in the crap folder right away. If you can't take the time to submit your video properly, I'm not going to take the time to watch it. Another problem that I see a bit of is having the DivX logo on your videos. Why the hell would we want to advertise for Divx in AMV Hell 4? You can turn this off in the divx options. Lastly, we get a few videos that contain subtitles. That's just tacky. Don't download fansubs then make a video out of them and leave subtitles all over it. Also don't just crop off half of your video to try and remove the subtitles. DO IT RIGHT. Try to buy or rent the dvd. If you can't do that, then at least use footage that doesn't have subtitles on it to begin with.

2. Learn how to get good quality.
If your video looks like crap, we probably aren't going to use it even if its quite good otherwise. A lot of the stuff we get probably wouldn't be that bad looking if the person submitting it just knew what they were doing. In many cases the submitter will actually sabotage their own videos by doing insane things like converting the audio to mono, or encode the video to 500kbps divx.

Here are some tips to help you get better quality. Try to follow as many as possible.

1. Try to use DVDs.
2. Don't use fansubs. Fansubs typically originate as tv captures. Some dude in Japan will capture the video off of tv, and it doesn't look all that great to begin with. Then he will apply some filters on it and compress it. Then some fansub group will grab it, throw some more filters on it, throw some subtitles on it, and compress it AGAIN. Then you grab it, and God only knows what horrible things you will do to it, but in any case, at this point it's probably already looking so bad that there is no hope for it.
3. Don't recompress things unnecessarily. When you work with your video, you should probably convert it to a LOSSLESS codec like Huffyuv or Lagarith. Don't compress your video to divx or mpg or wmv or anything like that before you edit it. THATS JUST STUPID.
4. Try to get the best quality audio you can. Audio ripped from a CD you own is the best choice. If for some reason you are going with audio from an mp3, AT LEAST get something better than 128kbit.
5. Don't recompress your audio before you submit the video to us. In fact, you should not be compressing audio at ANY step throughout the entire process.
6. Read this: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/

3. It's supposed to be FUNNY.
We receive videos that have absolutely no humor content in them. We don't want videos that you think are "cool" or "sad", or anything of the sort. We just want FUNNY videos!

4. Just because the clip you show matches the lyrics in the song, that doesn't make it funny.
This is probably the biggest problem I see in the majority of the videos. Someone out there listens to a song and it talks about a rose or something, and they think "Oh, the song said something about a rose! That series Utena has a lot of roses! I bet it would be funny if I used Utena with this song!" But of course it's NOT funny. Why would it be? If I came up to you and I said "Hey, I got a book!" and then I show you a book, do you think that's somehow funny? It's the same principle.

5. Lip sync is not funny.
Ok, so you have this really funny song. It's downright hilarious even. Now you make a video out of it by just having some random character lip-sync the words. We get a lot of videos like this. They all suck. It's great that you found a funny piece of audio, but its not funny because of your editing, it was already funny on it's own. You contributed NOTHING to it. If I want to go hear a funny clip from Family Guy, then I will go watch Family Guy, not your crappy lip-sync clip.

6. Did your video make you laugh?
If you can't even laugh at your own damn video, then why the hell are you sending it to us?

Phatpug
02-19-2007, 04:59 AM
Hells Yes!!!
Gotta admit though I broke some of those guidelines :lol:

I usually chuckle when I see people upload files that are in wmv format and the file's size is 500kb - 2Mb lol

!Je$u$!
03-09-2007, 09:05 AM
Yes i agree if everyone pulls there weight and follow the rules and guidelines that Zarxrax stated, Hell 4 should be uber good. Iam already busy working on a clip to send in. Just wanted to find out, what video editing software would you guys recommend and could give some examples because iam currently using Pinnacle 9. Is Pinnacle good enough????

Phatpug
03-10-2007, 06:24 AM
It's not so much what's the best editing software, it's what can you think of. Hell, you could probably make the best amv in amvhell 4 in windows movie maker if you wanted to (gl with that :lol: lol). I've been taught that 90% of the importance of the video is planning (humor, shots, etc.) The other 10% is quality. Remember, just because you have the software doesn't make you the best.

Anyway as for the editing software. There are lots to choose from. I use Vegas 7.0b as my main editing software, and if I need to do "advanced editing" I use Adobe after effects or particle illusion. Many people use adobe premiere as well. I can use them both but I enjoy Vegas more. Now, I'm not familiar with pinnacle. So I can't really tell you if it's "good" enough.

Note: Good programs cost money...I know it sucks :cry:

Zarxrax
03-10-2007, 08:43 PM
While I agree maybe 90% is the idea, the the other 10% is the editing... it's still important to have good editing. Any program that gives you basic editing tools with frame-accuracy should be all you need for most videos. The main problem with windows movie maker is that it doesn't give you frame-accurate control over your edits, and so you end up with extra frames popping in around scene changes and stuff like that. That sort of thing will probably get your video disqualified.

Phatpug
03-11-2007, 12:30 AM
Oh yeah that's true. I've noticed that. That was one of the main things that pissed me off in windows movie maker. The frame advancement is like 7 frames out of 30/ps. I forgot to mention how important key-framing can be as well as many other advanced editing techniques.

arakyd
05-13-2007, 06:28 AM
Are you looking for a more purely humorous focus than AMVH3? There were at least a couple of clips in that that I would categorize as "cool" or "sad" and that had minimal humor value as far as I could tell. Obviously there has to be something more compelling than just "oh, x is mentioned in the song and it's in the anime so therefore it will be good," but I'm wondering if you're specifically trying to avoid any and all non-humorous stuff this time, or if it is still essentially supposed to be like AMVH3 (but hopefully even better quality).

Zarxrax
05-13-2007, 04:53 PM
Yes, we are trying to avoid the non-humorous stuff.

Phatpug
05-26-2007, 02:43 PM
I'm sure you've seen some god awful entries. I'm curious to know exactly how terrible they are. When you make the DVD you should make a crap scene section right next to the deleted scenes xD.

Zarxrax
05-26-2007, 04:28 PM
I'm sure you've seen some god awful entries. I'm curious to know exactly how terrible they are. When you make the DVD you should make a crap scene section right next to the deleted scenes xD.

I honestly can't believe some of the stuff I have received . One person apparently obtained his source video by using screen recording software on youtube... the videos even include the youtube playback progress bar and his mouse cursor and it runs at like 1 fps :|

Phatpug
05-27-2007, 04:45 PM
Wow...that's pretty bad. I hope that person wasn't thinking that would make it in. Well that would be one to include in the crap section xD

yokou seishirou
06-04-2007, 06:23 AM
I'm sure you've seen some god awful entries. I'm curious to know exactly how terrible they are. When you make the DVD you should make a crap scene section right next to the deleted scenes xD.

I honestly can't believe some of the stuff I have received . One person apparently obtained his source video by using screen recording software on youtube... the videos even include the youtube playback progress bar and his mouse cursor and it runs at like 1 fps :|

Can I see the emails of all the youtubers that email to you the reasons why you didn't add their video to the final Cut :P.

But wow thats almost ****ing amazing. : /

Anonymous
06-26-2007, 06:57 PM
I'm sure you've seen some god awful entries. I'm curious to know exactly how terrible they are. When you make the DVD you should make a crap scene section right next to the deleted scenes xD.

I honestly can't believe some of the stuff I have received . One person apparently obtained his source video by using screen recording software on youtube... the videos even include the youtube playback progress bar and his mouse cursor and it runs at like 1 fps :|

Oh my lord---that made my teeth hurt just reading it.

You are a brave, brave soul. Or completely hollow inside and hoping for death. One or the other.

LawRayLiet
08-27-2011, 08:55 AM
This thread is useful.

And this is hilarious:


I honestly can't believe some of the stuff I have received . One person apparently obtained his source video by using screen recording software on youtube... the videos even include the youtube playback progress bar and his mouse cursor and it runs at like 1 fps :|

Zarxrax
08-27-2011, 04:00 PM
Wow, the good old days when I still had quality standards.
I eventually just gave up :|

Chewi105
08-27-2011, 05:09 PM
you should definitely include some of these rules into the entry rule thread, just for the hell of it xD

Outlaw
08-27-2011, 05:35 PM
Wow, the good old days when I still had quality standards.
I eventually just gave up :|

We've noticed. :P

mattroks101
08-27-2011, 08:33 PM
Wow, the good old days when I still had quality standards.
I eventually just gave up :|

For some reason, I laughed at that. I really have no idea why.

synbad2
08-27-2011, 09:02 PM
anyone got a got good DVD ripper that they know of? The ripper im using sucks right now

Malev
08-27-2011, 09:31 PM
Rules 3-5 match a lot of what I said (long-windedly) in a post last year: http://amvhell.com/showthread.php?p=154011#post154011

The BE ORIGINAL aspect still hasn't caught on as much, though hopefully we're past the "Death Note AMV = PEOPLE DIE LULZ XD" stage. Plus we stamped out the Family Guy line regurgitation with no spin on it stuff.