cheztuffy
04-01-2010, 01:42 AM
OK, this is sort of a critique in general of recent episodes, but especially episode 7. AMV Minis has become increasingly dependent on parody songs and source material from comedy shows. (I'm looking at you, 8989364364 'Family Guy' entries).

As is said in the rules, which I think has been forgotten: "making a character lip sync to a funny audio clip does not make a funny video" When creating a video, I think it's important to ask the question:

"Is this clip creating any new humor?"

Or perhaps more specifically:

"Is this clip funnier than the source audio?"

And in many recent cases, the answer is a clear No. It doesn't matter how well you are syncing up the characters and voices, if all you're doing is transferring someone else's joke onto different video. Even if a clip is funny in Family Guy, or The Simpson, or in a parody video, redubbing it to an anime clip isn't making anything new out of it.

Look at some examples from the early AMV Hells: Most of them are either serious songs/clips set to less serious anime, or something slightly less serious clips set to absurd anime, but in almost all cases they were creating a new joke. Osaka mixed with the Apple ad is funny, because you can see the connection with the spacey girl in the ad and the spaced-out character. Putting "Staying Alive" over a montage of Excel Saga is funny because it takes the metaphorical meaning of the song and applies it in a literal sense. Seeing a Family Guy clip set to Evangelion animation? No new joke is created out of that.

And you can start with humorous audio and create something new out of it. The Weird Al song "Young Dumb and Ugly" mixed with 'Akira' comes to mind. In this case, it enhances the original song by illustrating what the song is describing.

(and I realize I have contributed a grand total of 8 seconds to AMV hell, but I'm going to defer to the fact that I have actual experience in the movie/TV industry.)

So yeah. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but there's loads of talent and some great editing on display, but I think we've become dependent on letting other people write the jokes for us. :sweatdrop:

Tazuto
04-01-2010, 07:03 AM
i loved the video(ofcourse i cant hate my own gundam clip)

the terminator and hamlet and "slauther the world" clips were AWESOME

i didnt understand the brains clip so much cause i have no clue what that anime is but i pretty much got the idea

Doomimus
04-01-2010, 02:45 PM
It's not harsh. It's called constructive criticism. Of course, personal preference does factor in at the end.

Zarxrax
04-01-2010, 03:01 PM
Well, you are absolutely right. Sometimes I see those clips and can only think "come on, this is lame". But of course I send it to the reviewing committee to be fair, and then they give it a pass :p
And of course, then the episode is released, and lots of people will be like "yea that clip was hilarious"! and stuff.
I think the main problem here is that there actually are quite a lot of people who find those clips to be funny. And well, you can't argue with that.

And then sometimes there are cases where I'm like.... eh... it's under 5 seconds, so I'll let it in.
So you hear that people? Shorter vids have a better chance of getting accepted even if they suck :p

Doomimus
04-01-2010, 03:14 PM
It actually makes me wonder, Zarx, what would happen if you only included the ones that you thought were genuinely funny.

Tazuto
04-02-2010, 12:22 AM
lol^ there were times i was wondering how zarx didnt like my clips NOT ALL CLIPS HAVE TO RELATE TO THE MUSIC IN SOME WAY some are just funny

Shirker
04-02-2010, 01:31 AM
I'm with Tazuno. I mean, I know it's called AMV Hell, but just because some videos contain sound clips devoid of music doesn't mean the humor is sacrificed in any way, shape or form.

Anyone remember FMA/Freddy Got Fingered? One of the, if not the funniest clip of AMV Hell. And of course we all know about COOORN!!!

darkzi
04-03-2010, 02:22 AM
I mean we all got our crits; like I so hate repeats or ones with subs cause people wont buy or find dubs..no offense people but it just ruins it for me like whne you find an amv and there are subs flickering around -_-...though Im still confused on where mine accepted ones havent shown up yet but that is my own personal issue and they will show up someday..or as deleted scenes with Zarxrax commentary =P

DXM
04-03-2010, 06:08 AM
I'm with Tazuno. I mean, I know it's called AMV Hell, but just because some videos contain sound clips devoid of music doesn't mean the humor is sacrificed in any way, shape or form.

Anyone remember FMA/Freddy Got Fingered? One of the, if not the funniest clip of AMV Hell. And of course we all know about COOORN!!!

so solemnization by grain is fine , but using simpsions clips isn't?:confused:

Shirker
04-03-2010, 07:02 AM
so solemnization by grain is fine , but using simpsions clips isn't?:confused:

I... uh.... I never... implied that.... :confused:

My point was that it doesn't matter if the clip uses music or not, as long as it's funny, it's fine, and humor is subjective and everchanging. Of course people are gonna have stuff they don't like.

Doomimus
06-16-2010, 08:53 PM
It just occurred to me: You know what would've nicely topped off the "Belching Totoro" clip? Chihiro (from Spirited Away) and the other characters reacting to the Stink Spirit.

amb4manga
09-21-2010, 02:08 PM
It's good to be back! I'm sorry that I was busy in school for couple of months. Now to critique the good ones and bad ones. Here I go!

Episode 7:

AYYTAG / Dibert Theme: Kinda long title of the anime to start with, but near the end makes me laugh finally (actually works).

Evangelion / Drop Dead Fred: This clip got my attention, it's very amazing.

Gundam Wing / I Am the Creator: I like the song, so as this clip, because of not only the humor, but the timing does have something.

My Neighbor Totoro / Super Long Burp: Excuse me! This clip is hilarious no matter what.

TAoM-G / Soylent Greens, The Simpsons: Kinda creepy, but two sound clips are actually excellent.

Dragon Ball Z / Slaughter Your World: What a rip-off the song from the Disney version. However, this clip is no doubt genius at best.

Pokemon / Titanic (Kenny G. Version): Not exactly the same from Hell 3, but this clip is dramatic and humor combine. Well done!

BtTtS / Terminator Theme: Nearly identical from Hell 4, but a new anime actually works with a laughter.

Berserk / Last Action Hero: This clip is almost too long, and it's hilarious throughout.

Other clips that I don't like:

Clip 1: This one is kinda confusing. Is it me or is it Lucky Star characters play a rip-off WoW?

Clip 2: I don't understand of this clip. Using the Onion sound clip choice looks boring and average.

Clip 4: I don't laugh with this one. Is it dog talking or just on the sound clip?

Clip 8: Yes, it's dramatic to watch. However, the lack of this clip seems pointless.

Overall, Minis 7 is doing better and on the same par with the first four. AMV Minis 8 awaits me.

hosokawa37
09-23-2010, 03:53 AM
My top 5 from AMV Minis 7 (no explanations mentioned):

1. Lucky Star - WoW song
2. Mini-Goddess - Simpsons & soylent green
3. Neuro - Brains
4. DBZ - Slaughter Your World
5. Welcome to the NHK - 300 Naked Women lost on Internet