Zarxrax
10-17-2012, 10:15 PM
Since AMV Hell 6 is taking longer than expected to complete, I've decided to tide you guys over by releasing a steady stream of content over the next few days.
First off, we have AMV Minis Season 2 episode 11! This will be the final episode in season 2. It's been a good run, and I'd like to thank everyone who has submitted their clips to the project so far.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLM80-yzx3Q

Credits:

marbilSWE
Welcome to the nhk
Spose - I'm awesome

HaarTheDragonlord
Shin-chan
Code Monkeys - Sound Clip

ThatsNotMyName_studio
Fullmetal Alchemist
Disney's Beauty and the Beast - Gaston

SilentChaz
Interstella 5555
charlie teh unicron episode 2 - sound clip

N.P.C.C.
Fruits Basket
The Looney Tunes Show - We Are In Love

Patrick Wiley
Fooly Cooly
Men in Black - Sound Clip

SleeplessPanda (C.T.)
Fist of the North Star
Fleetwood Mac - Hold Me

jjlb84
Berserk
Army of Darkness - sound clip

ThatsNotMyName_studio
Elfen Lied
Melissa Manchester - Midnight Blue

N.P.C.C.
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Jem and The Holograms (The Misfits) - Congratulations

BakaLyte39K
Acchi Kochi
Chrono Trigger - Lavos' Theme

HaarTheDragonlord
Armored Trooper Votoms: The Last Red Shoulder
Family Guy - Sound Clip

adzman
Akira
Sealab 2021 - Sound Clip

HaarTheDragonlord
Sengoku Basara
Psy - Gangnam Style

Robert Frazer
Joshiraku
Full Metal Jacket - Sound Clip

HaarTheDragonlord
The Legend of Reyon: From New Struggles
The Boondocks - Sound Clip

ThatsNotMyName_studio
Excel Saga
FUN. - We Are Young

N.P.C.C.
Tenchi Universe
Terminator & Terminator 2: Judgement Day - Sound Clips

HaarTheDragonlord
Pokémon: Indigo League
Speedy Gonzales - Sound Clip

Robert Frazer
Shiki
Weebl's Stuff - science

N.P.C.C.
Queen's Blade
SpongeBob SquarePants - Sound Clip

ThatsNotMyName_studio
Excel Saga
FloRida - Whistle

N.P.C.C.
Cromartie High School and Night Shift Nurses Kazama Mana
The Lonely Island - Threw It On The Ground
and The Office - Sound Clip

kapparomeo
10-17-2012, 10:27 PM
Thanks for taking us through the second season, Zarxrax, it's been a great run and a lot of fun. I have been looking back over some of the previous episodes and there are a lot of smiles and creativity there. thanks again for helping us express it through the Minis.

Shadow66
10-17-2012, 10:31 PM
This has got to be the best of the season. If this was great then AMV Hell 6 is gonna be 20% Cooler then this.

LawRayLiet
10-17-2012, 11:07 PM
I got some good laughs from this episode, here's my honest opinion of each clip.

Welcome to the nhk
Spose - I'm awesome
[Great, fit really well, NHK is awesome.]

Shin-chan
Code Monkeys - Sound Clip
[It fit well and was edited nicely, but was just alright in my opinion]

Fullmetal Alchemist
Disney's Beauty and the Beast - Gaston
[Good]

Interstella 5555
charlie teh unicron episode 2 - sound clip
[I didn't really care for this one.]

Fruits Basket
The Looney Tunes Show - We Are In Love
[Haha This one was hilarious.]

Fooly Cooly
Men in Black - Sound Clip
[Didn't care to much for this one either, it was just alright.]

Fist of the North Star
Fleetwood Mac - Hold Me
[Ha Another great one.]

Berserk
Army of Darkness - sound clip
[meh]

Elfen Lied
Melissa Manchester - Midnight Blue
[I see the humor, but it was a bit underwhelming imo.]

Neon Genesis Evangelion
Jem and The Holograms (The Misfits) - Congratulations
[It fits the audio, but that's about it for me.]

Acchi Kochi
Chrono Trigger - Lavos' Theme
[Half decent]

Armored Trooper Votoms: The Last Red Shoulder
Family Guy - Sound Clip
[Was alright.]

Akira
Sealab 2021 - Sound Clip
[Haha Hilarious and creative.]

Sengoku Basara
Psy - Gangnam Style
[I'm guessing this was just accepted for the song, can't say I approve.]

Joshiraku
Full Metal Jacket - Sound Clip
[Was ok.]

The Legend of Reyon: From New Struggles
The Boondocks - Sound Clip
[Ha Hilarious, this one is great.]

Excel Saga
FUN. - We Are Young
[Ha This one was pretty good. Excel is awesome.]

Tenchi Universe
Terminator & Terminator 2: Judgement Day - Sound Clips
[Not great, but still mildly entertaining.]

Pokémon: Indigo League
Speedy Gonzales - Sound Clip
[Ha Clever.]

Shiki
Weebl's Stuff - science
[Random, not sure I got it.]

Queen's Blade
SpongeBob SquarePants - Sound Clip
[Hmm Maybe I'm just not getting it.]

Excel Saga
FloRida - Whistle
[Ha I'm gonna take a wild guess that Zuii pushed this one in.]

Cromartie High School and Night Shift Nurses Kazama Mana
The Lonely Island - Threw It On The Ground
and The Office - Sound Clip
[Haha Awesome, hilarious inside joke. Great way to end the season.]

thedarkmessenger
10-17-2012, 11:10 PM
Sengoku Basara
Psy - Gangnam Style
[I'm guessing this was just accepted for the song, can't say I approve.]

There is something seriously wrong with you. That clip was AWESOME.

Kaiju
10-17-2012, 11:11 PM
There is something seriously wrong with you. That clip was AWESOME.

Haar and I disagree.

N.P.C.C.
10-17-2012, 11:11 PM
- Way to appeal to the LCD with the Gangnam style clip haar. >_>

- I still don't get what was going on in that science clip. Liked the editing on it so it probably just went over my head.

- Cutting like that in the "congratulations" clip resulted in it looking far more jarring than i thought it would...

- Rape/molestation is always funny....till it happens to you.

- So, pikachu is a "mouse" pokemon so i guess him with speedy Gonzales audio works in theory, but i think that fell kinda flat.

- I laughed at the efren lied hand joke more than i should have...Comedic delivery shined through there.

- The Akira clip was nicely done and very clever.

It's serviceable i guess. Too bad this season ends with the trend of problems that plagued season 2 through out. (not to say cracks didn't show in season 1)

thedarkmessenger
10-17-2012, 11:11 PM
You guys wouldn't know a good clip if it raped you in the woods and threw your dead body in a lake >_>

Kaiju
10-17-2012, 11:14 PM
You guys wouldn't know a good clip if it raped you in the woods and threw your dead body in a lake >_>

We could say the same with you :P
Of course, different opinions will be different opinions, no one's opinions is perfect, except Back's opinions. His Opinions are both Elder God tier and Fact.

thedarkmessenger
10-17-2012, 11:15 PM
We could say the same with you :P
Of course, different opinions will be different opinions, no one's opinions is perfect, except Back's opinions. His Opinions are both Elder God tier and Fact.

Actually, his opinions are the most inaccurate ones I've ever come across.

N.P.C.C.
10-17-2012, 11:16 PM
You guys wouldn't know a good clip if it raped you in the woods and threw your dead body in a lake >_>

Fail for not saying "Threw it on the ground!"

Backmask
10-17-2012, 11:16 PM
How the hell did that Gangnam Style clip get in, among other things?


Actually, his opinions are the most inaccurate ones I've ever come across.

Care to explain?

Outlaw
10-17-2012, 11:17 PM
There is something seriously wrong with you. That clip was AWESOME.


You guys wouldn't know a good clip if it raped you in the woods and threw your dead body in a lake >_>

I don't think you would.

thedarkmessenger
10-17-2012, 11:17 PM
I'm surrounded by idiots....

N.P.C.C.
10-17-2012, 11:19 PM
How the hell did that Gangnam Style clip get in, among other things?

Zarx told haar to do it. the audio was originally something else.

thedarkmessenger
10-17-2012, 11:20 PM
I will admit this: it probably would of been funnier done to a different song.

N.P.C.C.
10-17-2012, 11:23 PM
I will admit this: it probably would of been funnier done to a different song.

A powerful sith you shall become.

Backmask
10-17-2012, 11:24 PM
I'm surrounded by idiots....

>Take a snipit from Sengoku Basara's ending
>Add LOLGANGNAM STYLE XD
>Submit

Jesus Christ, I believe this is the messiah of all AMVs. You've really out done yourselves this time. Unfortunately, it looks like you've raised the bar too high for the other AMV creators.

thedarkmessenger
10-17-2012, 11:24 PM
>Take a snipit from Sengoku Basara's ending
>Add LOLGANGNAM STYLE XD
>Submit

Jesus Christ, I believe this is the messiah of all AMVs. You've really out done yourselves this time. Unfortunately, it looks like you've raised the bar too high for the other AMV creators.
First off, it was Haar's, not mine. Second: I just admitted that a better song would of been...well...better xP

Backmask
10-17-2012, 11:26 PM
First off, it was Haar's, not mine. Second: I just admitted that a better song would of been...well...better xP

I never said it was yours. I was just breaking down the construction(If you dare call it "construction) of the video.

Kaiju
10-17-2012, 11:27 PM
I guess I really should give my opinion shouldn't I?

Well, I can't really comment on the editing, but I can comment on the sound clips + videos themselves.
To me this is a very lackluster end to S2, granted with AMV Hell 6 coming soon, it should be expected, but the only really funny clip I got even an ounce of a laugh out of me was the final one. And that's only because of the inside joke, that the youtube crowd probably won't get.
all the rest seemed to be trying keep 'relevant' with the times, as shown by that Gangnam Style clip which, has Haar himself pointed out was just the sound clip thrown onto people dancing. All this video needed was "Somebody I used to Know" or "Call me Maybe" and it could be called Mini's: Viral 2012 Edition.

To me it was a serious offender in "haha it's funny because I get the reference!" type of humor, which is rarely funny.
The funniest clips were honestly the Welcome to the NHK clip at the beginning of the video and the Elfen Lied (as mentioned for the comedic timing, despite seeing the punchline from a mile away) and those were the ones that got an chuckle out of me, the rest barely got a grin.

Call me an elitist. Say that my opinion is ****. Say I lack a sense of humor. I don't care, this is my opinion the matter. It was a very lackluster clip, and if what is said is true by some of the contributing clip editors, some of the clips had their audio changed by judge mandate, (namely the Gangnam Style vid) which is just plain terrible.

I sincerely hope, that it is lackluster because of all the time and effort being put into Hell 6. Although, I am beginning to seriously doubt it.

thedarkmessenger
10-17-2012, 11:28 PM
I never said it was yours. I was just breaking down the construction(If you dare call it "construction) of the video.

It was more or less implied but *shrugs* whatever. No reason to cry over spilt milk. Spilt nuclear waste, on the other hand....

Diddlemuffins
10-17-2012, 11:50 PM
You guys wouldn't know a good clip if it raped you in the woods and threw your dead body in a lake >_>

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1nos0ghmp1r8p2rt.jpg

You guys wouldn't recognize a goddamned amv if it jumped out and bit you on the end of your ****in' dick... so get of my back...

thedarkmessenger
10-17-2012, 11:52 PM
You guys wouldn't recognize a goddamned amv if it jumped out and bit you on the end of your ****in' dick... so get of my back...
...what?

N.P.C.C.
10-17-2012, 11:53 PM
...what?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2Q6AwrGUkQ

thedarkmessenger
10-17-2012, 11:54 PM
....I still don't get it

Diddlemuffins
10-17-2012, 11:55 PM
The thread's just started, don't you think you're jumping the gun with the insults?

thedarkmessenger
10-17-2012, 11:56 PM
You DO realize this is AMVHell.com, right?

Backmask
10-17-2012, 11:59 PM
You DO realize this is AMVHell.com, right?

Thank you for reminding me that this is AMVHell. With all these **** filled videos, I tought I was on a German porn website.

N.P.C.C.
10-18-2012, 12:00 AM
Thank you for reminding me that this is AMVHell. With all these **** filled videos, I tought I was on a German porn website.

I find this post funnier than the video.

thedarkmessenger
10-18-2012, 12:00 AM
Thank you for reminding me that this is AMVHell. With all these **** filled videos, I tought I was on a German porn website.

I wasn't directing it at you, Back

Diddlemuffins
10-18-2012, 12:01 AM
You DO realize this is AMVHell.com, right?

A community is what you make it.

Backmask
10-18-2012, 12:03 AM
I wasn't directing it at you, Back

I just wanted to make a pun.

thedarkmessenger
10-18-2012, 12:04 AM
A community is what you make it.

Actually, a community is what the community makes it. No matter how hard I wish for this place to be "happyhappyjoyjoyfilledwithunicorns.org", it's still AMVHell.com

Diddlemuffins
10-18-2012, 12:10 AM
I just wanted to make a pun.

Pun
Noun
A joke exploiting the different possible meanings of a word or the fact that there are words that sound alike but have different meanings.

Perhaps the pun has gone over my head though?

Diddlemuffins
10-18-2012, 12:12 AM
Actually, a community is what the community makes it. No matter how hard I wish for this place to be "happyhappyjoyjoyfilledwithunicorns.org", it's still AMVHell.com

Believe it or not others will follow a good example.

Damn it, I still need to find a less intrusive signature...

N.P.C.C.
10-18-2012, 12:13 AM
Believe it or not others will follow a good example.

Then why do people still use streaming footage in these clips when they see adequate footage next to there own in a episode?

Diddlemuffins
10-18-2012, 12:28 AM
Then why do people still use streaming footage in these clips when they see adequate footage next to there own in a episode?

Sorry, I'm not sure if I understand what that means. At any rate I think we can all agree that the age of the average user on this site is pretty young. We're sure to get people who don't understand what makes something especially funny or clever or just something else about the off-putting qualities of a video. Also when you're dealing with young people if you straight-out call them stupid they're going to go out of their way to defend their honor and then the stupidity will escalate, and nobody gets smacked when things go to retarded lengths because this is the internet. All I'm saying is that if we're willing to respect each other more it's only beneficial.

N.P.C.C.
10-18-2012, 12:47 AM
Sorry, I'm not sure if I understand what that means. At any rate I think we can all agree that the age of the average user on this site is pretty young. We're sure to get people who don't understand what makes something especially funny or clever or just something else about the off-putting qualities of a video. Also when you're dealing with young people if you straight-out call them stupid they're going to go out of their way to defend their honor and then the stupidity will escalate, and nobody gets smacked when things go to retarded lengths because this is the internet. All I'm saying is that if we're willing to respect each other more it's only beneficial.

If they're too lazy to properly get a hold of footage let alone read the god damn guide i feel a more direct approach is warranted so they get the picture. Patronizing isn't beneficial either and if it makes them take note that's better than where their mindset is at now. Given minis initiative to appeal to the LCD they'll never get the incentive to improve for one since some people apparently think downloading footage off youtube is acceptable.

Haar
10-18-2012, 12:55 AM
How the hell did that Gangnam Style clip get in, among other things?
Because the judges wanted to impress some little kids that think that video is funny. I'm still just as confused as you. Pretty much made that one to call out the judges. I also wasn't too happy with the quality of my Shin Chan clip or the Lyon Flare thing. Most likely would've kept them for myself, otherwise.


There is something seriously wrong with you. That clip was AWESOME.
No.


- Way to appeal to the LCD with the Gangnam style clip haar. >_>
And it got in, thus proving judge incompetence.

- So, pikachu is a "mouse" pokemon so i guess him with speedy Gonzales audio works in theory, but i think that fell kinda flat.
Guthix and I agree.


>Take a snipit from Sengoku Basara's ending
>Add LOLGANGNAM STYLE XD
>Submit

Jesus Christ, I believe this is the messiah of all AMVs. You've really out done yourselves this time. Unfortunately, it looks like you've raised the bar too high for the other AMV creators.

Pretty much. No matter how much I tell people how bad this one was, they refuse to listen.
http://i.imgur.com/OxRZl.png

Also, did you guys see those subs in the first clip? If it weren't already obvious, the bar has REALLY been lowered.
http://i.imgur.com/KrIQ7.png

N.P.C.C.
10-18-2012, 01:04 AM
Also, did you guys see those subs in the first clip? If it weren't already obvious, the bar has REALLY been lowered.
http://i.imgur.com/KrIQ7.png

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQvfBrkxMIJMuZbI2lmlJgetBtQj9oYu XOIwHaneB3tTZmo4ut2

Before i go for now, I'm going to go against my norm and show you niggas what was rejected and i want you to compare it to what we got.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly_vIlzrY1Q

I'd like to make note that all the judges agreed this clip was good/well made. However, i guess it wasn't LCD enough. Call me a whiner or attention whore if you like. But seeing those subs made me think priority needs to be seriously evaluated. Before you say that **** though, remember i'm complaining about WHY it was rejected being bull****.

Haar
10-18-2012, 01:24 AM
Sorry, I'm not sure if I understand what that means.
He's referring to people using footage ripped from YouTube, despite the guides explicitly saying not to and Zarx saying that he "feels like kicking people in the nuts when they do this (http://www.amvhell.com/showthread.php?3104-Video-Quality-for-Dummies)"

At any rate I think we can all agree that the age of the average user on this site is pretty young. We're sure to get people who don't understand what makes something especially funny or clever or just something else about the off-putting qualities of a video. Also when you're dealing with young people if you straight-out call them stupid they're going to go out of their way to defend their honor and then the stupidity will escalate, and nobody gets smacked when things go to retarded lengths because this is the internet.
The YouTube audience is young, but not the folks that post on the forum.

All I'm saying is that if we're willing to respect each other more it's only beneficial.
Respectfully disagreeing simply doesn't work with a lot of people.

hosokawa37
10-18-2012, 01:27 AM
not too bad. a good way to end the season in my opinion x3

now, i must wait again...

AKALink
10-18-2012, 01:30 AM
I keep coming into this thread thinking I could enjoy discussion here and I look at the posts and walk away. If I had to give an opinion on it, I thought it was post watching funny, like thinking about it after the fact I laughed about it, but watching it I only laughed out loud irl once.

Shadow66
10-18-2012, 02:44 AM
Everybody's a critic, if you guys are disappointed remember that this was an AMV Minis episode, and so far it seems that season 2 was a flop compared to season 1. Just wait for AMV Hell 6 and will all have a laugh.

Haar
10-18-2012, 02:50 AM
Everybody's a critic, if you guys are disappointed remember that this was an AMV Minis episode,
What does that have to do with anything?

Just wait for AMV Hell 6 and will all have a laugh.
What makes you think that?

Diddlemuffins
10-18-2012, 02:54 AM
If they're too lazy to properly get a hold of footage let alone read the god damn guide i feel a more direct approach is warranted so they get the picture. Patronizing isn't beneficial either and if it makes them take note that's better than where their mindset is at now. Given minis initiative to appeal to the LCD they'll never get the incentive to improve for one since some people apparently think downloading footage off youtube is acceptable.

Whatever makes it into a AMV Hell video is the responsibility of the judge and not the guy who submitted the video though. If someone is given privilege they don't deserve you can't get mad at them for feeding off it, you get mad at the guy who fed them presented the issue. If the bad quality users don't feel they belong then they will go away by themselves (though I'd rather tell them "You didn't really apply yourself." rather than shooing them away).

Arock
10-18-2012, 02:57 AM
Whatever makes it into a AMV Hell video is the responsibility of the judge and not the guy who submitted the video though. If someone is given privilege they don't deserve you can't get mad at them for feeding off it, you get mad at the guy who fed them presented the issue. If the bad quality users don't feel they belong then they will go away by themselves (though I'd rather tell them "You didn't really apply yourself." rather than shooing them away).

im calling bull**** on some of that, yes it is partially the judges fault for letting a **** clip pass but it is also the video makers fault because they are the one who made the **** ass clip in the first place

Haar
10-18-2012, 03:01 AM
Whatever makes it into a AMV Hell video is the responsibility of the judge and not the guy who submitted the video though. If someone is given privilege they don't deserve you can't get mad at them for feeding off it, you get mad at the guy who fed them presented the issue. If the bad quality users don't feel they belong then they will go away by themselves (though I'd rather tell them "You didn't really apply yourself." rather than shooing them away).
But we have guides. There's no excuse anymore. If you can't be arsed to read a guide, you deserve all the chewing out you get.


im calling bull**** on some of that, yes it is partially the judges fault for letting a **** clip pass but it is also the video makers fault because they are the one who made the **** ass clip in the first place

The fact that the judges don't seem to care anymore makes this even more detrimental for both parties.

N.P.C.C.
10-18-2012, 03:10 AM
Whatever makes it into a AMV Hell video is the responsibility of the judge and not the guy who submitted the video though. If someone is given privilege they don't deserve you can't get mad at them for feeding off it, you get mad at the guy who fed them presented the issue. If the bad quality users don't feel they belong then they will go away by themselves (though I'd rather tell them "You didn't really apply yourself." rather than shooing them away).

Besides the fact that we give the judges the third degree too you want to imply that the LCD that can't seem to read should get none of the blame just because they are taking advantage of something? We should accept their mediocrity when they know damn well their video sucks? I'd assume they are smart enough to compare their stuff to a "adequate" video and go...."gee...this is kinda bad." Responsibility to a extent falls on them too as they should have enough self respect not to spread their **** wherever they see fit and expect everyone not to mock it.

Diddlemuffins
10-18-2012, 03:12 AM
im calling bull**** on some of that, yes it is partially the judges fault for letting a **** clip pass but it is also the video makers fault because they are the one who made the **** ass clip in the first place

Yeah, if you made **** you made ****, but I still maintain that lot's of the people on this site are pretty young and are allowed to make mistakes. Besides, they're being blamed for ruining quality of the videos when they don't even decide the end result.

Arock
10-18-2012, 03:14 AM
Yeah, if you made **** you made ****, but I still maintain that lot's of the people on this site are pretty young and are allowed to make mistakes. Besides, they're being blamed for ruining quality of the videos when they don't even decide the end result.

also semi-bull****, youngest members here are chewi and chaos, everyone else im 90% sure is at least 18 or older so they should and experience and should know what quality looks like unless they are a complete dip****

Haar
10-18-2012, 03:15 AM
Yeah, if you made **** you made ****, but I still maintain that lot's of the people on this site are pretty young and are allowed to make mistakes. Besides, they're being blamed for ruining quality of the videos when they don't even decide the end result.
So we should look past mistakes because someone's young? If they're too young to follow instructions, they shouldn't be doing this sort of thing in the first place. Skip to 3 minutes in if you're too lazy to watch the whole thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibaPEq9qCKg


also semi-bull****, youngest members here are chewi and chaos, everyone else im 90% sure is at least 18 or older so they should and experience and should know what quality looks like unless they are a complete dip****
I think he's referring to the random hit and run ****ers that don't post here and just submit clips.

N.P.C.C.
10-18-2012, 03:16 AM
Yeah, if you made **** you made ****, but I still maintain that lot's of the people on this site are pretty young and are allowed to make mistakes. Besides, they're being blamed for ruining quality of the videos when they don't even decide the end result.

There is a difference between "making mistakes" and continuously choosing to do the "wrong" thing. They don't decide the "end result" but they initiated the action of making/submitting the **** clip.

thedarkmessenger
10-18-2012, 03:16 AM
By Diddle's logic, I should be working on Abridged Nanoha episode 3 ;D

SleeplessPanda
10-18-2012, 03:27 AM
For the record, I was against the Gangnam Style video, and if anyone's curious it was originally set to "Thriller" which was even less fitting. Overall, this episode was made with much higher quality control, but the lack of submissions toward the end was somewhat depressing. Besides one or two submissions that made it in that I personally thought were questionable, I think this was a solid episode and a good way to end the season.

Haar
10-18-2012, 03:34 AM
For the record, I was against the Gangnam Style video, and if anyone's curious it was originally set to "Thriller" which was even less fitting.
He's right. Let the record show that Panda was the only person that was publicly against that clip. He is, by default, our best judge.
http://i.imgur.com/eFmZT.jpg

Overall, this episode was made with much higher quality control,
I suppose there's some truth here, to an extent, but the jarring nature of the quality of some clips, or lack thereof was ridiculous.

SleeplessPanda
10-18-2012, 03:38 AM
He's right. Let the record show that Panda was the only person that was publicly against that clip. He is, by default, our best judge.
http://i.imgur.com/eFmZT.jpg

I suppose there's some truth here, to an extent, but the jarring nature of the quality of some clips, or lack thereof was ridiculous.

You're referring to the one with the painfully obvious watermark. Zarx' wanted it in anyway, the joke was before my time but I was assured it was funny.

Diddlemuffins
10-18-2012, 03:38 AM
There is a difference between "making mistakes" and continuously choosing to do the "wrong" thing. They don't decide the "end result" but they initiated the action of making/submitting the **** clip.

So what? If you don't give them any praise then they will not believe they should make many more attempts.

thedarkmessenger
10-18-2012, 03:39 AM
So what? If you don't give them any praise then they will not believe they should make many more attempts.

They probably shouldn't make more attempts :|

N.P.C.C.
10-18-2012, 03:43 AM
So what? If you don't give them any praise then they will not believe they should make many more attempts.

So, i should pretend their vanity AMV is not terrible because it will deter them? If that's all it takes to make them quit, then good riddance!

thedarkmessenger
10-18-2012, 03:44 AM
^this

Haar
10-18-2012, 03:46 AM
You're referring to the one with the painfully obvious watermark. Zarx' wanted it in anyway, the joke was before my time but I was assured it was funny.

No, I'm referring to all that visual noise in my prison rape clip. That, and the rough edges in my shin chan clip. As for that watermark, Zarx could've just cropped that out himself in like 5 seconds, so that was again, the fault of you and Zuii for not suggesting that, more than anyone else. The lip syncing was pretty off in the Berserk and Joshiraku clips. And then there's biggest issue of those subtitles clearly visible in the first clip. You can even see the nubs of the standard script fansubs at the bottom of the screen.


So what? If you don't give them any praise then they will not believe they should make many more attempts.
Skip to section on self esteem. (http://theangryotaku.blogspot.com/2011/07/video-killed-video-star-anime-music.html)

Shadow66
10-18-2012, 03:49 AM
I will say that I didnt expect a Gangnam Style clip in this episode since the song was only recently made popular. I wondered if this was gonna be in Hell 6 but of course the deadline was months before the song was made. The only way that the song would be in 6 would be because SSG probably made one just in time for the premiere, so I wont be surprised if the song is in 6.

Diddlemuffins
10-18-2012, 03:51 AM
So, i should pretend their vanity AMV is not terrible because it will deter them? If that's all it takes to make them quit, then good riddance!

The opposite of caring about something isn't hating it, it's apathy. If they don't try then they're beneath your notice, that's the point and it will drive the idea home harder than flaming them.

thedarkmessenger
10-18-2012, 03:52 AM
Why would Zarx do something like this? Why would he allow Barney to join the forums? D:

Haar
10-18-2012, 03:54 AM
The only way that the song would be in 6 would be because SSG probably made one just in time for the premiere, so I wont be surprised if the song is in 6.

I wouldn't be surprised...

Seems like the kind of thing SSG would do.


The opposite of caring about something isn't hating it, it's apathy. If they don't try then they're beneath your notice, that's the point and it will drive the idea home harder than flaming them.
Take some time to read that article I posted. You might see what's wrong with this statement, then.


Why would Zarx do something like this? Why would he allow Barney to join the forums? D:
The same reason why children's sports teams give everyone trophies.

N.P.C.C.
10-18-2012, 03:54 AM
The opposite of caring about something isn't hating it, it's apathy. If they don't try then they're beneath your notice, that's the point and it will drive the idea home harder than flaming them.

Hard to do that when i'm looking at their ****ty clips in minis episodes and thus, comment accordingly.

SleeplessPanda
10-18-2012, 03:54 AM
No, I'm referring to all that visual noise in my prison rape clip. That, and the rough edges in my shin chan clip. As for that watermark, Zarx could've just cropped that out himself in like 5 seconds, so that was again, the fault of you and Zuii for not suggesting that, more than anyone else. The lip syncing was pretty off in the Berserk and Joshiraku clips. And then there's biggest issue of those subtitles clearly visible in the first clip. You can even see the nubs of the standard script fansubs at the bottom of the screen.


Skip to section on self esteem. (http://theangryotaku.blogspot.com/2011/07/video-killed-video-star-anime-music.html)

New AMV Hell drinking game. Every time Haar submits a clip, then complains about it later and says the judges should have known better to accept it as is or even accept it at all, take a shot.

thedarkmessenger
10-18-2012, 03:55 AM
New drinking game: everytime a judge doesn't do their job, take a shot.

Haar
10-18-2012, 03:57 AM
New AMV Hell drinking game. Every time Haar submits a clip, then complains about it later and says the judges should have known better to accept it as is or even accept it at all, take a shot.
How 'bout you read Zarx's guides and get to learnin' what good vidja is s'pposed to look like, son? Better yet, get to reading that full one on AMV.org. (http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech31/)


New drinking game: everytime a judge doesn't do their job, take a shot.
But I don't want to die of alcoholic poisoning.

N.P.C.C.
10-18-2012, 03:58 AM
Better drinking game: Every time the judges appeal to the LCD, take a shot.

thedarkmessenger
10-18-2012, 03:59 AM
But I don't want to die of alcoholic poisoning.

XD

Haar
10-18-2012, 03:59 AM
Better drinking game: Every time the judges appeal to the LCD, take a shot.
The more you say that, the less they'll listen to you. I mean, I already posted the picture of the subs. It's obvious we won't make any progress.

Zarxrax
10-18-2012, 04:00 AM
New AMV Hell drinking game. Every time Haar submits a clip, then complains about it later and says the judges should have known better to accept it as is or even accept it at all, take a shot.

Lol, and I asked him to improve the quality on his shin-Chan clip, he didn't, and then he complains about the poor video quality.
That really takes a special kind of troll.

Haar
10-18-2012, 04:02 AM
Lol, and I asked him to improve the quality on his shin-Chan clip, he didn't, and then he complains about the poor video quality.
That really takes a special kind of troll.

And yet you let it in anyway. This is your folly. That's hardly trolling. Trolling is when you buy a bunch of guns from Wal-mart and shoot up an airport, then get off on a technicality.

thedarkmessenger
10-18-2012, 04:02 AM
Lol, and I asked him to improve the quality on his shin-Chan clip, he didn't, and then he complains about the poor video quality.
That really takes a special kind of troll.

way to save face, Zarx.

N.P.C.C.
10-18-2012, 04:02 AM
The more you say that, the less they'll listen to you. I mean, I already posted the picture of the subs. It's obvious we won't make any progress.

*Sigh* Still funner than the video was if you ask me...>_>

Shadow66
10-18-2012, 04:04 AM
Lol, and I asked him to improve the quality on his shin-Chan clip, he didn't, and then he complains about the poor video quality.
That really takes a special kind of troll.

BURN! anyway maybe we should get new judges like we suggested awhile back if we want to make progress.

SleeplessPanda
10-18-2012, 04:05 AM
How 'bout you read Zarx's guides and get to learnin' what good vidja is s'pposed to look like, son?


But I don't want to die of alcoholic poisoning.

You want ME to follow these guidelines to the letter, which I'm trying to do, when YOU obviously don't and submit clips that you just complain about later. When you start making perfect clips that follow all these guidelines, and when you stop being such a Monday morning quarterback on half of your own accepted clips that get in on Zarx's good graces, then I'll start combing over every submission with a fine toothed comb. Until then, stop being such a damn hypocrite.

Shadow66
10-18-2012, 04:08 AM
You want ME to follow these guidelines to the letter, which I'm trying to do, when YOU obviously don't and submit clips that you just complain about later. When you start making perfect clips that follow all these guidelines, and when you stop being such a Monday morning quarterback on half of your own accepted clips that get in on Zarx's good graces, then I'll start combing over every submission with a fine toothed comb. Until then, stop being such a damn hypocrite.

I would be happy that my clips got accepted, I couldn't think of a reason to bitch about it later.

SleeplessPanda
10-18-2012, 04:13 AM
I would be happy that my clips got accepted, I couldn't think of a reason to bitch about it later.

I'm honestly starting to think that Haar just wants to sabotage the Minis series. This is the second time he's submitted material he knew was questionable and has complained about it later and put all the blame on the judges. First it was the Hulk clip, now it's the Gangnam style clip among others he's saying we "should have made him fix". Personally, despite the fact he submits some really good ones now and then, I think we should just ban him from submitting if he's going to do this EVERY SINGLE TIME. It's childish, and I don't have the patience for it anymore.

N.P.C.C.
10-18-2012, 04:14 AM
You want ME to follow these guidelines to the letter, which I'm trying to do, when YOU obviously don't and submit clips that you just complain about later. When you start making perfect clips that follow all these guidelines, and when you stop being such a Monday morning quarterback on half of your own accepted clips that get in on Zarx's good graces, then I'll start combing over every submission with a fine toothed comb. Until then, stop being such a damn hypocrite.

Hypocrisy is not enforcing the rules of a guide you wrote because being lax nets more attention from the LCD. What haar is doing is driving the point home in self aware fashion that the quality of minis went to **** due to apathy.

LawRayLiet
10-18-2012, 04:15 AM
Since AMV Hell 6 is taking longer than expected to complete, I've decided to tide you guys over by releasing a steady stream of content over the next few days.

I like this much better. I thought it might have been a bit much to release them all at once.

thedarkmessenger
10-18-2012, 04:15 AM
I'm honestly starting to think that Haar just wants to sabotage the Minis series. This is the second time he's submitted material he knew was questionable and has complained about it later and put all the blame on the judges. First it was the Hulk clip, now it's the Gangnam style clip among others he's saying we "should have made him fix". Personally, despite the fact he submits some really good ones now and then, I think we should just ban him from submitting if he's going to do this EVERY SINGLE TIME. It's childish, and I don't have the patience for it anymore.

Or maybe we should just get better judges? You know, ones that will ACTUALLY JUDGE?

Shadow66
10-18-2012, 04:16 AM
I volunteer

Zarxrax
10-18-2012, 04:16 AM
The fact of the matter is, Amv hell and amv minis are not fine art. They have been fan pandering catering to the lowest common denominator type of videos since day 1.
Some people would not be satisfied with 90% of the clips that have appeared in Amv minis. If it was held to such high standards, we may have been able to release about 5 episodes over the past 3 years.

Lots of people actually enjoy amv minis, they find the clips funny, and they continue watching episode after episode.
And then there are apparently also people who think it is all complete crap, yet they also continue watching episode after episode.

Damn, I must be doing something right.

thedarkmessenger
10-18-2012, 04:18 AM
The fact of the matter is, Amv hell and amv minis are not fine art. They have been fan pandering catering to the lowest common denominator type of videos since day 1.
Some people would not be satisfied with 90% of the clips that have appeared in Amv minis. If it was held to such high standards, we may have been able to release about 5 episodes over the past 3 years.

Lots of people actually enjoy amv minis, they find the clips funny, and they continue watching episode after episode.
And then there are apparently also people who think it is all complete crap, yet they also continue watching episode after episode.

Damn, I must be doing something right.

Again, way to save face and inflate your ego, Zarx

Haar
10-18-2012, 04:18 AM
You want ME to follow these guidelines to the letter, which I'm trying to do,
Using Windows Movie Maker and Youtube footage is not following the guides to the letter, It's outright stated not to do so, so I doubt you have a great grasp on the guidelines.

when YOU obviously don't and submit clips that you just complain about later.
See my previous response.

When you start making perfect clips that follow all these guidelines, and when you stop being such a Monday morning quarterback on half of your own accepted clips that get in on Zarx's good graces, then I'll start combing over every submission with a fine toothed comb.
So your skill is directly correlated to mine? I had no idea we were Siamese twins. Do I need to be a great musician to know a band sucks?

Until then, stop being such a damn hypocrite.
Oh, I am the hypocrite. Oh,I have nothing, and I'm alone.
Oh, I am the storyteller. Oh, I have nothing, but I trust me.
Like a eruption of infernal volcano, I want to be mighty.

I would be happy that my clips got accepted, I couldn't think of a reason to bitch about it later.
So getting attention is fine, even if it's attention for something bad?



I'm honestly starting to think that Haar just wants to sabotage the Minis series. This is the second time he's submitted material he knew was questionable and has complained about it later and put all the blame on the judges. First it was the Hulk clip, now it's the Gangnam style clip among others he's saying we "should have made him fix". Personally, despite the fact he submits some really good ones now and then, I think we should just ban him from submitting if he's going to do this EVERY SINGLE TIME. It's childish, and I don't have the patience for it anymore.
Well I'm so sorry for hurting your poor feelings.

Shadow66
10-18-2012, 04:23 AM
So getting attention is fine, even if it's attention for something bad?

Yes gives me opportunity to improve, if that wasnt the case then we wouldnt have paradise now would we.

diamondsw
10-18-2012, 04:25 AM
Glad to hear some folks liked it; I smiled for the Beauty and the Beast/Fullmetal Alchemist clip, and laughed at the Speedy Gonzales/Pokemon clip... and that was it. Honestly it felt like "here are some clips that didn't make it into AMV Hell 6".

And seriously - torrents. Or even upload a decent resolution copy to YouTube (480p - really?). The DDL scene has been dead for nine months, leaving only really crappy/sketchy ones.

SleeplessPanda
10-18-2012, 04:27 AM
Using Windows Movie Maker and Youtube footage is not following the guides to the letter, It's outright stated not to do so, so I doubt you have a great grasp on the guidelines.

See my previous response.

So your skill is directly correlated to mine? I had no idea we were Siamese twins. Do I need to be a great musician to know a band sucks?

Oh, I am the hypocrite. Oh,I have nothing, and I'm alone.
Oh, I am the storyteller. Oh, I have nothing, but I trust me.
Like a eruption of infernal volcano, I want to be mighty.

So getting attention is fine, even if it's attention for something bad?



Well I'm so sorry for hurting your poor feelings.

I've been around the internet long enough to know a wall of rage and attempts at trolling when I see one. You and your friends need to knock it off or leave the site, this trash is getting really old. If you think submitting bad content is somehow helping us, and trying to put down the man in charge is making you look good in front of everyone, you're wrong. You have ZERO faith in Minis and have been doing your best to taint recent episodes and encourage disorder among users, I'm not playing your game anymore. Stand the Hell down.

thedarkmessenger
10-18-2012, 04:29 AM
You and your friends need to knock it off or leave the site,

Why don't YOU leave the site? What makes you soooooo much better than us? Because you're a ****ty judge?

Shadow66
10-18-2012, 04:31 AM
Why don't YOU leave the site? What makes you soooooo much better than us? Because you're a ****ty judge?

Getting a little hostile here.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/Shadow0666/MLP/124154__safe_pinkie-pie_image-macro_reaction-image_rage_mad.png

thedarkmessenger
10-18-2012, 04:31 AM
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/Shadow0666/MLP/124154__safe_pinkie-pie_image-macro_reaction-image_rage_mad.png

And of course, the pony fags arrive and try to scare me off with **** -_-

N.P.C.C.
10-18-2012, 04:32 AM
Why don't YOU leave the site? What makes you soooooo much better than us? Because you're a ****ty judge?

Show some damn respect! He's the best judge we got......LMFAO!

Shadow66
10-18-2012, 04:36 AM
This goes out to all the people bitching on this site.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/Shadow0666/MLP/123612__safe_scootaloo_image-macro_reaction-image.png

thedarkmessenger
10-18-2012, 04:37 AM
This goes out to all the people bitching on this site.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/Shadow0666/MLP/123612__safe_scootaloo_image-macro_reaction-image.png

Thanks for proving to me that ponyfags are all 12 year olds.

SleeplessPanda
10-18-2012, 04:39 AM
Show some damn respect! He's the best judge we got......LMFAO!

I go out of my way to lead the charge on upping quality control, and all I get is more videos from Haar that he planned all along to complain about when they got accepted, and certain users trying to tear me down and suggest our judges are worthless. I'm done with it, there's no pleasing these people, especially the ones who act like they WANT Minis to be canceled. I know I'm a good judge, but if I'm going to start taking advice from anyone at this point, it'll be the fans. 0% patience, 0% interest in continuing this debate, goodnight y'all, don't let the door hit your asses on the way out.

thedarkmessenger
10-18-2012, 04:41 AM
goodnight y'all, don't let the door hit your asses on the way out.

Be careful not to let the door rape your ass on the way out.

Diddlemuffins
10-18-2012, 04:46 AM
Be careful not to let the door rape your ass on the way out.

Classy.

diamondsw
10-18-2012, 04:47 AM
As a complete outsider to this little ****storm, I'm firmly with the judges. If you only have **** submitted, you get **** videos - that's how the bar gets lowered. Meanwhile, the immaturity on the part of Haar and TDM is truly appalling. If they're teenagers then I weep for the future. If they're adults I just weep.

Ah, the beauty of the ignore list.

thedarkmessenger
10-18-2012, 04:50 AM
As a complete outsider to this little ****storm, I'm firmly with the judges. If you only have **** submitted, you get **** videos - that's how the bar gets lowered. Meanwhile, the immaturity on the part of Haar and TDM is truly appalling. If they're teenagers then I weep for the future. If they're adults I just weep.

oh yes, and the rest of the forum is SOOOOOOOO mature. Yup, just me and Haar. We're the only immature ones here. [/sarcasm]

Diddlemuffins
10-18-2012, 04:54 AM
As a complete outsider to this little ****storm, I'm firmly with the judges. If you only have **** submitted, you get **** videos - that's how the bar gets lowered. Meanwhile, the immaturity on the part of Haar and TDM is truly appalling. If they're teenagers then I weep for the future. If they're adults I just weep.

I really don't like that way of thinking. Nobody said bad material should be an acceptable thing and we agree that there's an excess of crap videos. The bar gets lowered when one thing makes a new standard, not everyone doing something spontaneously. It's not like something can't be redeemed either.

ComradeChamberlain
10-18-2012, 04:56 AM
http://i.qkme.me/35w3hq.jpg

thedarkmessenger
10-18-2012, 04:57 AM
http://i.qkme.me/35w3hq.jpg

You obviously haven't been around here very long. There's been far, far worse :P

Diddlemuffins
10-18-2012, 04:58 AM
oh yes, and the rest of the forum is SOOOOOOOO mature. Yup, just me and Haar. We're the only immature ones here. [/sarcasm]

So... you can't be called out on your bull**** even though you're clearly one of the more out there?

thedarkmessenger
10-18-2012, 04:59 AM
So... you can't be called out on your bull**** even though you're clearly one of the more out there?

Why not call out yourself for your bull****?

Shadow66
10-18-2012, 05:11 AM
Ok lets just take a deep breath and chill the **** out.

Diddlemuffins
10-18-2012, 05:11 AM
Why not call out yourself for your bull****?

I've chosen my responses to the best of my ability as I always have on this site and you cannot point out one comment where I've been out of line. Three out of four of your comments on the other hand have been childish Youtube-level crap.

thedarkmessenger
10-18-2012, 05:14 AM
I've chosen my responses to the best of my ability as I always have on this site and you cannot point out one comment where I've been out of line. Three out of four of your comments on the other hand have been childish Youtube-level crap.

It's hard to choose my responses when half the people on this thread are tree-hugging hippies. 'cause we all know the human race is TOTALLY not another species of demon >_>

Shadow66
10-18-2012, 05:14 AM
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/Shadow0666/MLP/115044__safe_twilight-sparkle_rarity_applejack_animated_image-macro_book_bed_look-before-you-sleep_thread_thread-war.gif

Diddlemuffins
10-18-2012, 05:15 AM
This kind of obnoxious image-spamming is what makes people hate bronies and compare their behavior to furries.

MADEVIL
10-18-2012, 05:16 AM
Ok people enough with the senseless spam, keep to the subject of the mini at hand or posts will be deleted

thedarkmessenger
10-18-2012, 05:17 AM
Fine by me. I see no hope for these people anyway. Plus, it's 11:17 pm and I"m tired xP.

Shadow66
10-18-2012, 05:18 AM
This kind of obnoxious image-spamming is what makes people hate bronies and compare their behavior to furries.

Hey Hey Hey, don't try picking a fight with me, trying to help defuse the situation before this thread gets locked. and I going on record saying im not a furry.

diamondsw
10-18-2012, 05:18 AM
I really don't like that way of thinking. Nobody said bad material should be an acceptable thing and we agree that there's an excess of crap videos. The bar gets lowered when one thing makes a new standard, not everyone doing something spontaneously. It's not like something can't be redeemed either.

While I agree with you in theory, in practice most groups will lower their standards to meet expectations. Let's roll with the idea that submission quality has worsened. There are only few alternatives that I can see:

Wait until enough quality videos have been submitted to release an AMV Mini. As quality decreases, time between video releases increases. Interest drops, which may cause a vicious cycle.
Lower the bar to allow for less-than-ideal videos. This keeps the videos flowing, but has the side effect of encouraging those who create lower quality work. Essentially, it hurts the signal to noise ratio.
Or, keep the time between video releases stable and the quality high, but shorten the length as necessary based on the number of quality submissions. This could be awkward if you have a call for videos and just don't get many submissions (the live action Mini certainly took a while to fill up - but was worth it). Do we want to see micro Mini's of only a few clips?


And of course, this is all subjective. I didn't find many of the clips funny this time around - others did. There's also the tendency to view the past through rose colored glasses (although it's hard to argue that AMV Hell 3 didn't utterly rock :) ).

Fundamentally, what makes a great video is it stands on its own even if you don't know the referenced material - but it's that much better if you do. As soon as you rely on people knowing the references, you'll get swaths of people saying "this sucks", just because not everyone watches the same stuff. Of course, if you just use the same shows, then people complain about that.

Diddlemuffins
10-18-2012, 05:19 AM
It's hard to choose my responses when half the people on this thread are tree-hugging hippies. 'cause we all know the human race is TOTALLY not another species of demon >_>

Nobody here likes your lolsorandom comments.

thedarkmessenger
10-18-2012, 05:20 AM
Nobody here likes your lolsorandom comments.

who the hell said I'm in it for love?

Zuiichi
10-18-2012, 05:24 AM
who the hell said I'm in it for love?

http://youtu.be/Pu8KFlfzk3Y

thedarkmessenger
10-18-2012, 05:24 AM
Trolling hippies and ponyfags is FUN! 8D

falconmick
10-18-2012, 05:25 AM
yayyy

thank god.. I was dieing of no amv

Shadow66
10-18-2012, 05:26 AM
Alright if you guys are gonna keep going on like this take it outside. That's what chat is for.

Diddlemuffins
10-18-2012, 05:33 AM
While I agree with you in theory, in practice most groups will lower their standards to meet expectations. Let's roll with the idea that submission quality has worsened. There are only few alternatives that I can see:

Wait until enough quality videos have been submitted to release an AMV Mini. As quality decreases, time between video releases increases. Interest drops, which may cause a vicious cycle.
Lower the bar to allow for less-than-ideal videos. This keeps the videos flowing, but has the side effect of encouraging those who create lower quality work. Essentially, it hurts the signal to noise ratio.
Or, keep the time between video releases stable and the quality high, but shorten the length as necessary based on the number of quality submissions. This could be awkward if you have a call for videos and just don't get many submissions (the live action Mini certainly took a while to fill up - but was worth it). Do we want to see micro Mini's of only a few clips?


And of course, this is all subjective. I didn't find many of the clips funny this time around - others did. There's also the tendency to view the past through rose colored glasses (although it's hard to argue that AMV Hell 3 didn't utterly rock :) ).

Fundamentally, what makes a great video is it stands on its own even if you don't know the referenced material - but it's that much better if you do. As soon as you rely on people knowing the references, you'll get swaths of people saying "this sucks", just because not everyone watches the same stuff. Of course, if you just use the same shows, then people complain about that.

Hey, I say is there aren't enough good submissions it's vacation time. A delayed video is bad for a little while but a bad one is bad forever.

That said, I have every AMV Hell video on my computer (except 0 and /0, **** that) so it the quality hasn't gotten to the point where I hated a video.

thedarkmessenger
10-18-2012, 05:34 AM
A delayed video is bad for a little while but a bad one is bad forever.

This

diamondsw
10-18-2012, 05:58 AM
That said, I have every AMV Hell video on my computer (except 0 and /0, **** that) so it the quality hasn't gotten to the point where I hated a video.

Same here (although I have to check if I have AMV Hell 2 - it was borderline). I certainly haven't hated any, but I just haven't felt the bust-a-gut crying-laughing on recent ones the way I still do on some older content. YMMV and all that.

Shadow66
10-18-2012, 06:02 AM
The only ones I have are 3-5, didn't keep 1 & 2 since they were short and my computer kept breaking and restarting. The 0's I had for a short time then got rid of them.

diamondsw
10-18-2012, 06:11 AM
I still remember when my friend sat me down for AMV Hell 3 the first time - he deliberately skipped the opening so I wouldn't know how long it was. I think we were 15 minutes in before I asked "wait a minute, how long *IS* this thing?", and he just busted up laughing. Still one of the more amazing experiences, the first time you watch over an hour of AMV's, and they're almost all awesome.

Shadow66
10-18-2012, 06:15 AM
I saw AMV Hell 3 with my friends at college, it was the first AMV I've ever seen and I enjoyed every minute of it. I remember how much I laughed that I thought I was gonna die (you can die from laughing). It was because of 3 that I became a AMV Creator and entered contests at conventions (get better every year)

Kaiju
10-18-2012, 06:25 AM
I leave for my night class and I come back to this. Keep it up guys, I am rather enjoying this ****storm, it has everything:
-Schism between Editors and Judges
-Blaming Games on who is responsible (No! It's not my fault! It's that guy who submits lackluster clip because their bad! TOTALLY not my judging skillz!!1! or "It's judges fault for allowing a bad clip in!!11!")
-Dumbass Ponyfag posting
-Site creator trying to save face or stating a truth, hard to tell
-Insults up the wazoo...

Okay, Gentlemen, while I much enjoy a good ****storm, why don't we compromise?

-Judges: Two of you never participate, so hire two new judges to the panel and be more strict about content allowed? They'll come out less and less, but I'd rather have rare quality than a steady stream of ****.

-Clip Editors: Instead of sending in clips you KNOW are bad, why don't you do your best and contribute clips you personally find funny or amusing? Most of you aren't bad, and I've seen good quality from you, so if you keep complaining about ****...why do you keep submitting ****?

-Everyone Else: Admit it, whether or not some clips were funny or not, this was a very lackluster entry into Mini's more so than most.

As long as this keeps going, whether you judges or editors like or not, Mini's, heck, the production of Hell in general will just continue to be lackluster or outright ****. Its not just the fault of one group or the other it's the fault of BOTH. Bottom line is that there needs to more critical judges and people who send in clips need to ensure it's their best quality work. So we don't just get crummy video with a popular song. Like the Avengers clip in Live Action Hell or the Gangnam Style vid this Mini. Good things don't come from half-assing, aim for the best common denominator and don't just settle for "Oh, people on youtube will like it." or "this clip is lackluster, but I'll send it anyways" personally I would like to see good quality humor and clips than half-assed clips with viral songs that the youtube fantards will eat up but the more critical members will shake their head at. I want quality humor, I came to this site because AMV 3 and 4 were some of the funniest things I had seen done with AMV's period. Now, It seems the quality of standards from both clip submitters and judges have grossly decreased to the lowest common denominator.

Guthix
10-18-2012, 06:54 AM
a word for panda- apart from you yourself starting the debate about judges [chewi] which made you yuorself catch on fire you actualy do a ****y job. first off you justify youtube as postive feedback while few of youtubes most popular videos are simply ****.next is the cross between what you said and what haar posted, bitch that be good respect gathering. and finaly with your last post, the i promise to do **** which i never actualy do, im practicaly sure everyone has seen you state something and not keep your word atleast twice.

a word for zarx- is it a bad thing that harr is testing you for video quality? its not like its an issue or anything, bad quality is perfectly fine. lets just brush it off as trolling so the common folk wont be mad.

ponyfags - seriously you people are some of the most stupidest people i see on the internet, throwing pony spam to make everyone chill out is as much affecting as putting out a house fire with you own body.enjoy the hate ya dam furrys.

new people, returned veterans. while i do realize not being here excuses you from saying stupid things but for the love of god look around you!.a standart good community produces decdent material and gathers reqruits BY THAT METERIAL since we dont use any form of advertize ment.but we wont gather any poeple with ****y amvs because youtube already has that covered.in the long run lowering the quality only hinders the community leaving simple picture,numbers spams and trolls AS THE LAST ENTERTAINMENT source while waiting for mediocre amvs.people who make amvs projects here barely get any submisions and have to wait like 3 years to finish therm. on top of that people prefer blaiming each other instead of actualy fixing anything.

and finaly the pikachu clip. this clip was a newfag idea with no punchline, no quality , and no understanding to the majority since you have to see and old cartoon to understand.i mean come on! what was the goddam apeal to accept that! its equivalent of pointing at a spork and saying its part spoon and expecting everyone to understand, laughter isnt even there! no humor! no point!

SleeplessPanda
10-18-2012, 07:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAAw05J-6ek

AKALink
10-18-2012, 07:44 AM
Trolling hippies and ponyfags is FUN! 8D

I guess I do fit those demographics.

Kaiju
10-18-2012, 07:55 AM
I guess I do fit those demographics.

Naw, you don't fit the latter. You like MLP, but you don't shove it down people's throats like SOMEONE ELSE on this forum. So I think you're cool in that regard.

Having a Fandom (in this case, being a brony) is like having a penis, it's okay to have one, but it's not okay shoving it down other people's throats.

Sir Fluffykins
10-18-2012, 07:56 AM
Half of these are Haars, wonder if he'll complain about the quality this time :P

Kaiju
10-18-2012, 07:57 AM
Half of these are Haars, wonder if he'll complain about the quality this time :P

Have you SEEN the thread and the ****storm? xD

SleeplessPanda
10-18-2012, 08:16 AM
Half of these are Haars, wonder if he'll complain about the quality this time :P

Of course he did, and he was praised by the anti-Panda brigade for continuing his valiant efforts of quality checking the mean old stupid judges. I went out of my way to try and be the toughest judge this episode, yet end up being the scapegoat for the 3-4 lackluster submissions. He actually told me these weren't quality checks, then of course when the episode comes out and his videos get pointed out as the weak links, he was supposedly testing us again. I'm just tired of it . . (I'm venting by the way, can't sleep and had a few drinks), we've got some people on this site that think that's proper behavior and that they can go around insulting Zarx', insulting judges, and insulting our fan base saying we shouldn't even listen to them because they're supposedly idiots who don't know good entertainment. Well I'm done. I try to be polite and listen to the requests of our site's resident hipster trolls, and get nothing but negativity in return (what a shock). These people do not have the best interests of the site in mind, and they care nothing for the fans, all they want is for things to be run around here their way . . I said my peace, I feel better now. -.-;

Guthix
10-18-2012, 08:22 AM
Of course he did, and he was praised by the anti-Panda brigade for continuing his valiant efforts of quality check the mean old stupid judges. I went out of my way to try and be the toughest judge this episode yet end up being the scapegoat for the 3-4 lackluster submissions. He actually told me these weren't quality checks, then of course when the episode comes out and his videos get pointed out as the weak links, he was supposedly testing us again. I'm just tired of it . . (I'm venting by the way, can't sleep and had a few drinks), we've got some people on this site that think that's proper behavior and that they can go around insulting Zarx', insulting judges, and insulting our fan base saying we shouldn't even listen to them because they're supposedly idiots who don't know good entertainment. Well I'm done. I try to be polite and listen to the requests of our site's resident hipster trolls, and get nothing but negativity in return. I said my peace, I feel better now. -.-;

1:what fan base?
2: you already used up your victim ticket
3:i dont see zuichi making excuses
4:WHAT FAN BASE?

SleeplessPanda
10-18-2012, 08:25 AM
1:what fan base?
2: you already used up your victim ticket
3:i dont see zuichi making excuses
4:WHAT FAN BASE?

You quoted the old quote, I realized there were some errors and I had to go back and fix them, then decided to add a few things, quote the fixed quote. =o

Guthix
10-18-2012, 08:33 AM
You quoted the old quote, I realized there were some errors and I had to go back and fix them, then decided to add a few things, quote the fixed quote. =o

panda the day you will watch and comment on the newcomer fagthreads of theyr crappy amvs and tell them how to get better like we do ill consider giving you a break, as far as i can see now you just ****ed up your reputation with your past attension whoring and no one will give you a break now

Sir Fluffykins
10-18-2012, 08:41 AM
marbilSWE
Welcome to the nhk
Spose - I'm awesome

I liked -but video quality seemed different with each scene

HaarTheDragonlord
Shin-chan
Code Monkeys - Sound Clip

Worked, but didn't get any reaction from me

ThatsNotMyName_studio
Fullmetal Alchemist
Disney's Beauty and the Beast - Gaston

I liked, but would have been better if Armstrong actually moved his mouth

SilentChaz
Interstella 5555
charlie teh unicron episode 2 - sound clip

Rather weak joke, I don't care how gold his blood is

N.P.C.C.
Fruits Basket
The Looney Tunes Show - We Are In Love

I liked, didn't knwo there was a "Looney Tunes Show" with singing

Patrick Wiley
Fooly Cooly
Men in Black - Sound Clip

Liked, could have used different scenes to better show the focus on the eye-brows, but still worked

SleeplessPanda (C.T.)
Fist of the North Star
Fleetwood Mac - Hold Me

Ha!

jjlb84
Berserk
Army of Darkness - sound clip

Good one

ThatsNotMyName_studio
Elfen Lied
Melissa Manchester - Midnight Blue

Nice joke, nothing hilarious but it works fine

N.P.C.C.
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Jem and The Holograms (The Misfits) - Congratulations

THAT SCENE! Song and that scene were made for each other

BakaLyte39K
Acchi Kochi
Chrono Trigger - Lavos' Theme

Very good, though that might be because I recognises the theme

HaarTheDragonlord
Armored Trooper Votoms: The Last Red Shoulder
Family Guy - Sound Clip

Works I guess, again it's like there's no impact, the scene is just playing out

adzman
Akira
Sealab 2021 - Sound Clip

Ha

HaarTheDragonlord
Sengoku Basara
Psy - Gangnam Style

Meh, but just because it went too long and I don't remember it sounding so techno, also it's one of those "We get the joke, moving on" clips

Robert Frazer
Joshiraku
Full Metal Jacket - Sound Clip

Works -only because the bunny was smacking them around :)

HaarTheDragonlord
The Legend of Reyon: From New Struggles
The Boondocks - Sound Clip

Meh...

ThatsNotMyName_studio
Excel Saga
FUN. - We Are Young

Weak, needed a bit more context

N.P.C.C.
Tenchi Universe
Terminator & Terminator 2: Judgement Day - Sound Clips

Ryoko it's for you

HaarTheDragonlord
Pokémon: Indigo League
Speedy Gonzales - Sound Clip

Better after being shortened and I guess it works, alright weak-level joke

Robert Frazer
Shiki
Weebl's Stuff - science

Really liked this, but it fell flat right as the girl has her head crushed (because she has a man's voice)

N.P.C.C.
Queen's Blade
SpongeBob SquarePants - Sound Clip

Perfect "WTF-BOMB" moment wasted XD

ThatsNotMyName_studio
Excel Saga
FloRida - Whistle

Alright scene, afraid I don't get the reference

N.P.C.C.
Cromartie High School and Night Shift Nurses Kazama Mana
The Lonely Island - Threw It On The Ground
and The Office - Sound Clip

Very good and very good way to end the episode, well done N.P.C.C. and Zar

HellsDeathAngel
10-18-2012, 09:45 AM
I was just ok, I didn't get the science clip either and the ending was amusing. And all I can say is wow with everything that's gone on in this thread. I'll just sit back and watch.

thedarkmessenger
10-18-2012, 12:29 PM
I was just ok, I didn't get the science clip either and the ending was amusing. And all I can say is wow with everything that's gone on in this thread. I'll just sit back and watch.

It's mostly died down now. Not sure if it's because of MAD or just because we went to sleep, though :P

thedarkmessenger
10-18-2012, 12:31 PM
I guess I do fit those demographics.

I wouldn't necessarily call you a ponyfag. I have yet to see you shove it down everyone's throat.

That's right! I double posted instead of edited! WHAT NOW?!

Shike
10-18-2012, 12:45 PM
So, I'm not used to AMVHell drama/inside jokes - can someone delve into the story behind the last clip a bit?

thedarkmessenger
10-18-2012, 12:48 PM
I think it has something to do with a lot of people disliking the minis.

....either that or disliking overused memes.

adzman
10-18-2012, 01:03 PM
Well at least people aren't openly complaining about MY clip...

N.P.C.C.
10-18-2012, 01:11 PM
So, I'm not used to AMVHell drama/inside jokes - can someone delve into the story behind the last clip a bit?

"Threw it on the ground" jokes were accepted way too many times this season. To the point that even the LCD should have got that one if they followed season 2. I actually thought it was fairly universal due to that.

Haar
10-18-2012, 02:06 PM
Well, folks. This has definitely an interesting experience. In all honestly, I didn't think this episode was absolutely terrible. In fact, it was an improvement over episode 10 of season 2, in some respects. I still enjoy watching these Minis for the occasional good clip and the lulz that occur in the forums. That being said, I'm just bored waiting for AMV Hell 6 to come out and probably wouldn't have posted even half of this stuff if I wasn't bored out of my mind right now. Thanks for getting so riled up over some forum posts.


He actually told me these weren't quality checks, then of course when the episode comes out and his videos get pointed out as the weak links, he was supposedly testing us again.

Panda, based on the threads I've seen you make, I know you've played at least three Bethesda RPGs, and thus should understand the concept of lying. It's not like people don't lie on the internet all the time anyway, thus you should be wary of this sort of thing happening.

Me, I'm dishonest. And a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly, it's the honest ones you want to watch out for, because you can never predict when they're gonna do something incredibly... stupid.



-Clip Editors: Instead of sending in clips you KNOW are bad, why don't you do your best and contribute clips you personally find funny or amusing? Most of you aren't bad, and I've seen good quality from you, so if you keep complaining about ****...why do you keep submitting ****?
You raise a valid point. If past experience has told me anything, it's that my quality checking doesn't work and probably never will work. Provided there's a season 3, I'll be sure not to pull something that will probably go over the heads of most.


Yes gives me opportunity to improve, if that wasnt the case then we wouldnt have paradise now would we.

So, now you're comparing Paradise, a series with no judging involved at all where everything gets in no matter what, to AMV Minis, a series where videos are reviewed by judges that tell you whether or not your video is good. I think you just invalidated your own point. Also, if a video has to be accepted into Minis for you to improve, that is yet again your own folly.

Shike
10-18-2012, 02:19 PM
"Threw it on the ground" jokes were accepted way too many times this season. To the point that even the LCD should have got that one if they followed season 2. I actually thought it was fairly universal due to that.

To be completely honest, my memory is so crap I can't tell you what the past few episodes contained. The only threw it on the ground one I can remember is the Hulk one from the live action mini. :sweatdrop:

Guthix
10-18-2012, 03:17 PM
To be completely honest, my memory is so crap I can't tell you what the past few episodes contained. The only threw it on the ground one I can remember is the Hulk one from the live action mini. :sweatdrop:

wow, just wow

Zarxrax
10-18-2012, 03:24 PM
I guess I'll give my opinion of all the clips in the episode, since I never do this sort of thing.

I'm Awesome
I thought this one was pretty good. The scene choices fit well, it was fairly fun overall, lightly funny, and I had no real complaints. I never saw the subtitles in it even after watching about 5 times. I guess I don't make a habit of looking in the bottom corner.

Child Molester
I also thought this one was pretty good. The part with him putting his hand in the air and then getting grabbed by someone is what made it for me.

Gaston
This was just really well done. Not much else to say.

banana blood
I cracked up at this.

We are in love
I didn't really get this one. I guess you have to have seen the show

I make this look good
I also didn't really care for this one.

Hold me
This was just gold. The freaky way the guy was walking around had me cracking up.

berserk
This was ok

elfen lied
Cute, simple, funny. I loved it.

Congratulations
Another epic clip.

Lavos
Great tribute to chrono trigger. It was hilarious when lavos' scream came out of this thing. Then when it reveals that its just some pudding or something, that makes it so much better.

fine day to be nude
Ok video. It fit the audio quite well and its fairly funny.

Akira
Quite funny and well made. The lip sync was well executed.

Gangnam Style
It starts out with something like the lasso move, which is what really makes it for me. Also the large group of people dancing in unison conjures up images of the end of the gangnam style video. Nothing fantastic here, but I think a lot of people will get a kick out of it.

War face
I thought this one was ok, slightly funny.

gang rape thing
Pretty funny.

set the world on fire
Short and sweet. This scene has been used a lot, but its still pretty good.

Tenchi Terminator
Ok clip. Audio was fitting.

Speedy Gonzales
I loved this one. I thought it was hilarious as pikachu is both a rat and was running around really fast.

Science!
This was just weird, but in a good way.

I see you
I thought this was an interesting combination and worked well.

Whistle
Ah, another ****philia joke. I didn't realize there were so many in this episode.

Threw it on the ground
Was funny.

Guthix
10-18-2012, 03:30 PM
I guess I'll give my opinion of all the clips in the episode, since I never do this sort of thing.

Speedy Gonzales
I loved this one. I thought it was hilarious as pikachu is both a rat and was running around really fast.


http://media.steampowered.com/steamcommunity/public/images/avatars/02/020ee4d57e046e8327f72c22e1cb58ce6f8bb445_full.jpg

diamondsw
10-18-2012, 05:22 PM
*annoying stupid rage face*

Deal with it.

It does fail in that if you don't know Looney Tunes then the clip makes no sense (which further goes to show that a truly good clip should stand on its own without the need for understanding references). But seriously, if people don't know classic Looney Tunes then they're missing out - if only for gold like "What's Opera Doc" and "The Rabbit of Seville". Speedy Gonzales was never a great character, but it worked well with the video.

Shike
10-18-2012, 05:23 PM
wow, just wow

I'm glad you're . . . "special" enough to remember them all, oh talented one.

Guthix
10-18-2012, 06:03 PM
Deal with it.

It does fail in that if you don't know Looney Tunes then the clip makes no sense (which further goes to show that a truly good clip should stand on its own without the need for understanding references). But seriously, if people don't know classic Looney Tunes then they're missing out - if only for gold like "What's Opera Doc" and "The Rabbit of Seville". Speedy Gonzales was never a great character, but it worked well with the video.

oh boy are you clueless

Distict5-9
10-18-2012, 06:18 PM
Due to some weird perversity, I have to say that this thread suddenly makes me want to go back and take another go at making AMVs and redeem myself from my past pieces of ****.
So... Thanks?

Guthix
10-18-2012, 06:19 PM
Due to some weird perversity, I have to say that this thread suddenly makes me want to go back and take another go at making AMVs and redeem myself from my past pieces of ****.
So... Thanks?

your welcome!

Sir Fluffykins
10-18-2012, 06:30 PM
That didn't sound like classic Looney Tunes, it sounded like a modern style song. I never knew the clip was from Looney Tunes and I don't get why you'd need a reference, because clearly the song and anime show a crazy girl in love and a guy wanting to get away.

Somehow it didn't play out right, maybe the Porky Pig type voice was too out of place, maybe the editing could have been better. Reference wasn't the problem as what was sung was pretty clear.

Shadow66
10-18-2012, 06:57 PM
The song is from the new looney toons show if you guys didn't know Cartoon Network made a new looney toons show for the next generation.

Guthix
10-18-2012, 07:02 PM
The song is from the new looney toons show if you guys didn't know Cartoon Network made a new looney toons show for the next generation.

monsters

Kaiju
10-18-2012, 07:05 PM
The song is from the new looney toons show if you guys didn't know Cartoon Network made a new looney toons show for the next generation.

Yeah, and it's pure garbage.

Shadow66
10-18-2012, 07:06 PM
Never saw da show n don't plan to.

Kaiju
10-18-2012, 07:11 PM
Never saw da show n don't plan to.

Take my word for it, stick with classic Looney Toons.

Shadow66
10-18-2012, 07:12 PM
I don't even watch the old ones now that I'm older I see the show in a different light.

Evileel
10-18-2012, 07:18 PM
Lots of people actually enjoy amv minis, they find the clips funny, and they continue watching episode after episode.
Yay, Zarx is talking about me.
Anyways, mine Top 5 this time:
We are in love
I'm Awesome
Akira
Congratulations
Threw it on the ground

diamondsw
10-18-2012, 08:10 PM
oh boy are you clueless

How? Because I don't agree with your taste (or lack thereof)? Because I'm more aware of the subject matter being referenced on that particular clip?

And... *drumroll*... another person on the ignore list. This thread just keeps on giving!

SleeplessPanda
10-18-2012, 08:18 PM
I never even thought about making a little list of my favorites from this episode, so better late than never:

HaarTheDragonlord
Shin-chan
Code Monkeys - Sound Clip

LOL . . Child molestation . .

N.P.C.C.
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Jem and The Holograms (The Misfits) - Congratulations

Perfectly fitting and entertaining.

Robert Frazer
Shiki
Weebl's Stuff - science

It was a very strange submission but strongly radiated feelings of old school AMV Hell, it tickled the darkest part of my funny bone.

N.P.C.C.
Queen's Blade
SpongeBob SquarePants - Sound Clip

Timing is everything, and it was perfect here. Probably the only submission I had to really fight for to get accepted.

Outlaw
10-18-2012, 08:58 PM
Ok, so, this topic was only 2 pages when I saw it yesterday and I'm just going to assume its full of Haar responding to every single thing.

N.P.C.C.
10-18-2012, 09:10 PM
N.P.C.C.
Queen's Blade
SpongeBob SquarePants - Sound Clip

Timing is everything, and it was perfect here. Probably the only submission I had to really fight for to get accepted.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8oQtQ5hZXs

Haar
10-18-2012, 11:13 PM
Ok, so, this topic was only 2 pages when I saw it yesterday and I'm just going to assume its full of Haar responding to every single thing.

http://i.imgur.com/pHbKM.jpg

Not exactly. I was asleep for part of it and out of town for a while, as well. Dark, Guts, and N.P.C.C. stole my spotlight for a while.

Marbil
10-18-2012, 11:16 PM
Yo! I was the creator off the Welcome to the nhk clip and i do have to say I feel a little embarrassed right now. The subtitle was a really ****ed up misstake from my side and im deply sorry for that, it wont happen again. I guess it was because it took alot off time finding the right clip for the sketch, so by the time I was finish, I was too exhausted to realize that the top off the subtitle was still visible:S

I know this isnt an excuse but im extremly new to the site (even thou i have followed amv minis and amv hells for a long time) and this is my first time uploading sketch to amv minis so im still a "newbie" in that term. But I will take the criticism with me for my next sketch so I wont make the same misstakes^^ Im also very glad that people find the sketch amusing even thou off its flaws:D

And one more thing, because I never had the chance before, I would like to thank zarx and all people who have made amv hell / minis available. I've had much joy watching all the minis episode and the hell movies over the years! You guys are awesome!

Ps: Sorry for my bad english:P

N.P.C.C.
10-18-2012, 11:25 PM
Yo! I was the creator off the Welcome to the nhk clip and i do have to say I feel a little embarrassed right now. The subtitle was a really ****ed up misstake from my side and im deply sorry for that, it wont happen again. I guess it was because it took alot off time finding the right clip for the sketch, so by the time I was finish, I was too exhausted to realize that the top off the subtitle was still visible:S

I know this isnt an excuse but im extremly new to the site (even thou i have followed amv minis and amv hells for a long time) and this is my first time uploading sketch to amv minis so im still a "newbie" in that term. But I will take the criticism with me for my next sketch so I wont make the same misstakes^^ Im also very glad that people find the sketch amusing even thou off its flaws:D

And one more thing, because I never had the chance before, I would like to thank zarx and all people who have made amv hell / minis available. I've had much joy watching all the minis episode and the hell movies over the years! You guys are awesome!

Ps: Sorry for my bad english:P

Apology accepted. That's alot more than most of the newbies who pull hit and runs give. We were all new to this and made mistakes but you seem to have the right attitude so it's cool as far as i am concerned...This coming from someone who thinks leaving the subs in/in view is the absolute WORSE sin you can commit.

While on the subject...

http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z372/NintendoPorn/vlcsnap-2012-10-18-18h29m13s0.png

From the western animation episode back when i was a giant **** up and didn't have enough sense to zoom...Zarx, why didn't you crop this out along with other times watermarks appear? Is it due to not wanting to damage the video's quality/ screw with artistic integrity? I feel you could revise the rules to state you will crop this stuff out if the video gets accepted. Or is it too much of a hassle?

Haar
10-18-2012, 11:47 PM
Yo! I was the creator off the Welcome to the nhk clip and i do have to say I feel a little embarrassed right now. The subtitle was a really ****ed up misstake from my side and im deply sorry for that, it wont happen again. I guess it was because it took alot off time finding the right clip for the sketch, so by the time I was finish, I was too exhausted to realize that the top off the subtitle was still visible:S

I know this isnt an excuse but im extremly new to the site (even thou i have followed amv minis and amv hells for a long time) and this is my first time uploading sketch to amv minis so im still a "newbie" in that term. But I will take the criticism with me for my next sketch so I wont make the same misstakes^^ Im also very glad that people find the sketch amusing even thou off its flaws:D

And one more thing, because I never had the chance before, I would like to thank zarx and all people who have made amv hell / minis available. I've had much joy watching all the minis episode and the hell movies over the years! You guys are awesome!

Ps: Sorry for my bad english:P

It's fine. I understand. I'm just glad you actually came back, unlike a lot of the people that submit clips and we never hear from again. Yes, I know N.P.C.C. already said what I said, basically, but I figured I might as well throw that out there.

jinzo64
10-18-2012, 11:57 PM
I'm surrounded by idiots....

I thought you were surrounded by gumdrops and icecream?

I know it's not relevent but I saw it and I couldn't resist
So
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii247/jinzo64-1/anime/haruhierm.jpg?t=1286815393

kapparomeo
10-19-2012, 12:09 AM
Here are some of my thoughts on the episode:

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Welcome to the NHK - "I'm Awesome"

It's funny 'cause it's true... funny in that bleak, despairing, hot red tearfully stinging pulled-smile way.

I did not notice the subtitles until they were pointed out to me. Normally I dislike seeing subtitles, but I don't mind it here precisely for that reason - it was unobtrusive, the graphic design suits the original sign - and when you go back and look at it, it only makes the character seem even more pathetic!

Crayon Shin-Chan - "Pee"

I liked this clip for the strong parallel between the audio and the video - I always get a kick out of recognising a visible connection.

Fullmetal Alchemist - Beauty and the Beast

I also enjoyed this skit - I'm always a helpless sucker for showtunes in any case, but it was also well-edited with Armstrong's exhibitionism suiting the mood of the song. The last zoom on "Barge" was just out of step, though.

Interstella 5555 - charlie teh unicron

A decent quickfire gag-skit that skipped along pacily and didn't overegg itself.

Fruits Basket - We Are In Love

This skit was excellently-composed - I loved the strong lip-syncing in particular.

Fooly Cooly - Men in Black

This skit sparked a big shiny grin from me - the pose strutted with "I make this look good" perfectly evokes the mood.

Fist of the North Star - Hold Me

A good example of the "dissonant" style of skit, ironically juxtaposing wildly different but complementary material.

Berserk - Army of Darkness

Unfortunately, this skit disappointed me. The concept itself is fine, but the freezing of the frame when Guts isn't speaking is embarrassingly obvious. Rather than freezing the entire frame, the editor should have cut out a shot of his closed mouth and pasted it over as a mask so that the background flames could move uninterrupted.

Elfen Lied - "Midnight Blue"

Uncomplicated, but competently made.

Neon Genesis Evangelion - Congratulations

This was a fun, lively skit and the quick syllable cuts kept it bouncing along and didn't let the link get slack.

Acchi Kochi - Lavos' Theme

This was an intriguingly offbeat skit which built up to a powerful climax - if it wasn't for that channel ident in the corner! I'm sorry, but that is a real bugbear of mine. Sometimes we're limited in our source material, yes, but both shots could have been cropped without any loss of necessary detail.

Armored Trooper Votoms - Family Guy

A simple tale, but well-told. I enjoyed the consistent theme running throughout.

Akira - Sealab 2021

A very professional skit that was composed with visible skill. The lip-syncing in the first shot was near to flawless as I can tell, and the use of graphical effects in the remainder was also handled with seamless assurance.

Sengoku Basara - Gangnam Style

I enjoyed this skit. The dancers got your head bopping along to the beat, and that injection of energy was well-timed to carry you on through the second half of the video.

Joshiraku - Full Metal Jacket

This was one of my own skits, so I won't comment.

Legend of Reyon - The Boondocks

Hmm... while the moon is the most inoffensive sort of nudity (it happens a lot in kids' cartoons like Dexter's Laboratory, for instance), I'm still not altogether convinced that it should be on display in a Hell or Mini.

Excel Saga - We Are Young

I appreciated this clip's sense of attitude - you do sense the character glorying in what she's achieved (inflicted).

Tenchi Universe - "Judgement Day"

I enjoyed the use of the dub - it adds an extra layer of authenticity - and the dramatic music made it wonderfully absurd. I would have liked scrolling code down the side of the killcamera shot, but really that's just a petty nitpick and doesn't detract from the video at all.

Pokémon - Speedy Gonzales

I was astonished to see some earlier posts in this thread saying that people didn't "get" Looney Tunes. People have never experienced Looney Tunes? Good grief, it's as ridiculous as putting spoiler alerts on the Bible. I was subjected to something similar when a skit I made featuring Thunderbirds that went over some viewers' heads... stop making me feel old, chaps.

In any case, even if you weren't altogether familiar with Speedy Gonzales, I felt that this clip would have had universal appeal regardless - the fast-paced music and jabbering speech suits a nippy, zippy situation whatever the show.

Shiki - science

Again, it's not appropriate for me to comment on my own skit - but I will say that the doll was actually really creepy when I first watched the show.

Queen's Blade - SpongeBob SquarePants

There have actually been some really good "firin' mah lazor"-style skits this season - the "DR OCTAGONAPUSBLARGH" from an earlier episode was a delight, and this skit was also charged with plenty of spirit. It was unexpected, the bunny-girl's expression was suitably bizarrely distorted, the explosion in the video conveyed plenty of power, and the sound also resonanted strongly as well.

Excel Saga - Whistle

I suppose you could day something about just trying to unconcernedly whistle away being in flagrante delicto, but I'm afraid that this is one skit that did feel as though it was just marking time.

Cromartie and Night Nurse - "Threw it on the Ground" & The Office

"That bastard! He's got some nerve, editing a skit like that!" :D

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Altogether, Episode 2-11 had me smiling throughout and I can quite happily say that it was a fine way to send off Season Two.

Shadow66
10-19-2012, 12:52 AM
Since everyone is doing this I might as well give out my opinion.

marbilSWE
Welcome to the nhk
Spose - I'm awesome
I enjoyed this, didn't see the watermark until it was brought up. Since I enjoyed it your forgiven, dont let it happen again.

HaarTheDragonlord
Shin-chan
Code Monkeys - Sound Clip
Funny, went well with the scene

ThatsNotMyName_studio
Fullmetal Alchemist
Disney's Beauty and the Beast - Gaston
I always laugh at the disney vids and this one is no exception. If my sister saw the AMV's that used Disney songs she would be pissed. (makes me grin thinking about it)

SilentChaz
Interstella 5555
charlie teh unicron episode 2 - sound clip
meh

N.P.C.C.
Fruits Basket
The Looney Tunes Show - We Are In Love
Not bad. the animation went real well with the song. I'm impressed

Patrick Wiley
Fooly Cooly
Men in Black - Sound Clip
Not good, not bad

SleeplessPanda (C.T.)
Fist of the North Star
Fleetwood Mac - Hold Me
Messed up but funny

jjlb84
Berserk
Army of Darkness - sound clip
It's alright, I'm surprised that I didn't get the reference until I saw the credits. maybe if it was a little bit longer I would have gotten it.

ThatsNotMyName_studio
Elfen Lied
Melissa Manchester - Midnight Blue
Too easy. Wasn't that impressed, still laughed though

N.P.C.C.
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Jem and The Holograms (The Misfits) - Congratulations
Saw the original clip last week so I say that you did a good job with it (never saw Evangelion so I don't understand the scene)

BakaLyte39K
Acchi Kochi
Chrono Trigger - Lavos' Theme
Didn't get the reference, but it was entertaining

HaarTheDragonlord
Armored Trooper Votoms: The Last Red Shoulder
Family Guy - Sound Clip
Not bad, not sure between this one and the one from Paradise 5 is better

adzman
Akira
Sealab 2021 - Sound Clip
Funny

HaarTheDragonlord
Sengoku Basara
Psy - Gangnam Style
Already put my opinion on this one already, check back previous comments

Robert Frazer
Joshiraku
Full Metal Jacket - Sound Clip
I thought this one was funny, captured the emotion

HaarTheDragonlord
The Legend of Reyon: From New Struggles
The Boondocks - Sound Clip
*Heavy laugh*

ThatsNotMyName_studio
Excel Saga
FUN. - We Are Young
Got the messsage. Did a clip with that song for AMV Hell 6 (don't know if it got accepted) So will see if mine is as funny or not as this one

N.P.C.C.
Tenchi Universe
Terminator & Terminator 2: Judgement Day - Sound Clips
*tapping to theme song*

HaarTheDragonlord
Pokémon: Indigo League
Speedy Gonzales - Sound Clip
Dont see many looney toon ones. but this one was alright

Robert Frazer
Shiki
Weebl's Stuff - science
.........????????? WTF

N.P.C.C.
Queen's Blade
SpongeBob SquarePants - Sound Clip
Stop watching Spongebob so glad I didn't get the reference. It was funny

ThatsNotMyName_studio
Excel Saga
FloRida - Whistle
I don't get it. What does the song have to do with giving the illusion that a little girl is giving fellatio?

N.P.C.C.
Cromartie High School and Night Shift Nurses Kazama Mana
The Lonely Island - Threw It On The Ground
and The Office - Sound Clip
My reaction everytime I see a Dear Sister/Threw It On The Ground clip. SNL is not funny and this song isn't even one of the good ones, hopefully that will be the end of those skits. (really hope their not in 6)

Zarxrax
10-19-2012, 01:41 AM
From the western animation episode back when i was a giant **** up and didn't have enough sense to zoom...Zarx, why didn't you crop this out along with other times watermarks appear? Is it due to not wanting to damage the video's quality/ screw with artistic integrity? I feel you could revise the rules to state you will crop this stuff out if the video gets accepted. Or is it too much of a hassle?

On watermarks, basically I don't care. If it can reasonably be worked around, for instance using a dvd version, of course I would prefer the watermark-free one. And for something like the divx logo, I basically have no tolerance for that as it can be turned off in an option.
Cropping off half of the video just to hide a watermark is just silly, and is a much graver atrocity in my opinion than just leaving the watermark on there.
And besides, millions of people have to see the watermark when they watch it on tv anyways.

N.P.C.C.
10-19-2012, 01:46 AM
Alright. If it doesn't kill too much of the video's view, i will opt to do that all the time. Of course, when a situation like that comes along, i improvise. 9 times out 10, i always find a way.

Zarxrax
10-19-2012, 01:54 AM
Alright. If it doesn't kill too much of the video's view, i will opt to do that all the time. Of course, when a situation like that comes along, i improvise. 9 times out 10, i always find a way.

When I made this (http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members/members_videoinfo.php?v=101271)along time ago, I found a lot of creative ways to hide watermarks. Almost all of the non-anime footage I used was watermarked. For some of it I used picture in picture effects where I had the water mark out of frame, for some parts I just cropped it off, and on other parts I covered them with graphics and stuff.

hosokawa37
10-19-2012, 01:57 AM
HaarTheDragonlord
Armored Trooper Votoms: The Last Red Shoulder
Family Guy - Sound Clip
Not bad, not sure between this one and the one from Paradise 5 is better

that one was made by me xD
it was rejected a long time ago [my 5th skit i ever made too i believe x3]

N.P.C.C.
10-19-2012, 01:59 AM
When I made this (http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members/members_videoinfo.php?v=101271)along time ago, I found a lot of creative ways to hide watermarks. Almost all of the non-anime footage I used was watermarked. For some of it I used picture in picture effects where I had the water mark out of frame, for some parts I just cropped it off, and on other parts I covered them with graphics and stuff.

*Sigh* I gotta join the org sooner or later...Dammit.

Haar
10-19-2012, 02:09 AM
*Sigh* I gotta join the org sooner or later...Dammit.

Might as well make your account there now. It's a pretty fun place. Think of it as SomethingAwful, but with AMVs instead of Let's Plays.

N.P.C.C.
10-19-2012, 02:11 AM
Might as well make your account there now. It's a pretty fun place. Think of it as SomethingAwful, but with AMVs instead of Let's Plays.

I don't use that site so the comparison is lost on me. I don't like the idea of going to the gamefaqs.com of amv sites.

Haar
10-19-2012, 02:23 AM
I don't use that site so the comparison is lost on me.
You've those Retsupurae videos I post. Slowbeef and Diabetus are both SA posters. Let that sink in.

I don't like the idea of going to the gamefaqs.com of amv sites.
If you can deal with the gamefaqs people, AMV.org will be a cakewalk.

N.P.C.C.
10-19-2012, 03:17 AM
You've those Retsupurae videos I post. Slowbeef and Diabetus are both SA posters. Let that sink in.

**** that.


If you can deal with the gamefaqs people, AMV.org will be a cakewalk.

It's still a walk i don't want to willingly take again. Kenny on South park is use to dying, but he doesn't like when it happens.

Haar
10-19-2012, 03:40 AM
Fair enough, I suppose.

UTF
10-19-2012, 03:44 AM
AMV.org is filled to the brim with some of the pettiest, cold hearted people I've ever had the displeasure of meeting.

If you make videos for your own enjoyment, use the site as a file host, and leave it at that.

Haar
10-19-2012, 03:47 AM
It's gotten slightly better. Still plenty of ****, I agree, but that's kind of what I meant by "fun" in this case. Watching all of the drama that occurs there on a daily basis.

I admit I'd post there more often if the members were more friendly, but I know there's no chance of that, so I'll say something on there like maybe once a month and spend the rest of my time watching them bicker.

ThatsNotMyName_studio
10-19-2012, 03:56 AM
First off, I liked this episode a lot. I think that it had perhaps the best flow of the season

marbilSWE
Welcome to the nhk
Spose - I'm awesome
I haven't seen the sauce for this, so I missed it if there is a meme tie-in. That said I liked it
and I thought the watermark was very ignorable

HaarTheDragonlord
Shin-chan
Code Monkeys - Sound Clip
I really don't like the looks of Shin-chan clips, but this was pervy enough to be funny

ThatsNotMyName_studio
Fullmetal Alchemist
Disney's Beauty and the Beast - Gaston
I'm a fan of my own work, and very pleased that generally y'all like this one. Also my first attempt
at "moustache-synching"

SilentChaz
Interstella 5555
charlie teh unicron episode 2 - sound clip
Not bad but not terribly funny, imo (I liked the "Grand Slamwich" skit from ep 10 a little more

N.P.C.C.
Fruits Basket
The Looney Tunes Show - We Are In Love
I liked this one a lot. Works whether your familiar with the sauce(s) or not

Patrick Wiley
Fooly Cooly
Men in Black - Sound Clip
I thought the video set-up to "I make this look good" was a little too disposable.

SleeplessPanda (C.T.)
Fist of the North Star
Fleetwood Mac - Hold Me
Love it

jjlb84
Berserk
Army of Darkness - sound clip
This one sets me up to be very disappointed, then makes me smile. well done

ThatsNotMyName_studio
Elfen Lied
Melissa Manchester - Midnight Blue
Finally, this one makes it in. For your entertainment, you can watch the original
un-cut, 30-sec version here (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/56054393/XX%20AMV%20MINI%20UPLOADS%20XX/past%20AMV%20entries/GIVE%20YOUR%20HAND.mp4)

N.P.C.C.
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Jem and The Holograms (The Misfits) - Congratulations
Well done, very nice edit, and bonus points for slipping Pen-Pen in there as well

BakaLyte39K
Acchi Kochi
Chrono Trigger - Lavos' Theme
Prolly my bad, but I just didn't get this one

HaarTheDragonlord
Armored Trooper Votoms: The Last Red Shoulder
Family Guy - Sound Clip
I thought that this was a Haar clip, just because of how the characters are drawn.
Very funny clip, and the main having gray-ish hair, coupled with "Clinton" made it even better

adzman
Akira
Sealab 2021 - Sound Clip
Possibly my favorite clip of the episode. LOL funny

HaarTheDragonlord
Sengoku Basara
Psy - Gangnam Style
I liked the "Thriller" version much better

Robert Frazer
Joshiraku
Full Metal Jacket - Sound Clip
It was OK

HaarTheDragonlord
The Legend of Reyon: From New Struggles
The Boondocks - Sound Clip
It works, but I sort of didn't like this one

ThatsNotMyName_studio
Excel Saga
FUN. - We Are Young
I actually had my doubts about this one, but some responses have been good, so what do I know

N.P.C.C.
Tenchi Universe
Terminator & Terminator 2: Judgement Day - Sound Clips
Wasn't sure the first time I saw it, but yeah, I like it

HaarTheDragonlord
Pokémon: Indigo League
Speedy Gonzales - Sound Clip
It's like the above LT clip. I like it though I agree that Speedy isn't a very strong character.
bonus points for using an un-tapped sauce

Robert Frazer
Shiki
Weebl's Stuff - science
Not much of tie between video and audio, but I like it because it's so weird

N.P.C.C.
Queen's Blade
SpongeBob SquarePants - Sound Clip
I'm kinda "hmmm" with this one tbh

ThatsNotMyName_studio
Excel Saga
FloRida - Whistle
I wasn't sure if I wanted to go in the gutter and make this one but decided that it had to be done
For those that aren't sure of the "why", check out the lyrics to this song here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m69AvC3pnkA)

N.P.C.C.
Cromartie High School and Night Shift Nurses Kazama Mana
The Lonely Island - Threw It On The Ground
and The Office - Sound Clip
Sure it's an inside joke, but if you do get it, it is f-n hilarious! Thank you N.P.C.C. for making it

CREDIT ROLL
The credits suck because I'm in them too many times

Diddlemuffins
10-19-2012, 09:01 AM
and finaly the pikachu clip. this clip was a newfag idea with no punchline, no quality , and no understanding to the majority since you have to see and old cartoon to understand.i mean come on! what was the goddam apeal to accept that! its equivalent of pointing at a spork and saying its part spoon and expecting everyone to understand, laughter isnt even there! no humor! no point!

Oh screw you, the pikachu clip was funny.

N.P.C.C.
10-19-2012, 09:16 AM
Oh screw you, the pikachu clip was funny.

No it....it wasn't. It really wasn't.

Diddlemuffins
10-19-2012, 09:18 AM
So, I'm not used to AMVHell drama/inside jokes - can someone delve into the story behind the last clip a bit?

Why is everyone acting like this is so goddamn confusing? Someone who has never been on the forums could easily understand it.

Diddlemuffins
10-19-2012, 09:28 AM
That didn't sound like classic Looney Tunes, it sounded like a modern style song. I never knew the clip was from Looney Tunes and I don't get why you'd need a reference, because clearly the song and anime show a crazy girl in love and a guy wanting to get away.

Somehow it didn't play out right, maybe the Porky Pig type voice was too out of place, maybe the editing could have been better. Reference wasn't the problem as what was sung was pretty clear.

You're messing up pretty badly here, man...

N.P.C.C.
10-19-2012, 09:32 AM
How is that "messing up?" He's just giving his opinion and i have no problem with that.

F.Y.I. Sir Fluffykins, that was bugs and lola bunny.

Diddlemuffins
10-19-2012, 09:33 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8oQtQ5hZXs

Nostalgia Critic is ****.

N.P.C.C.
10-19-2012, 09:37 AM
Nostalgia Critic is ****.

Then you'll love this. Doug Walker retired the character.

Diddlemuffins
10-19-2012, 09:47 AM
I was astonished to see some earlier posts in this thread saying that people didn't "get" Looney Tunes. People have never experienced Looney Tunes? Good grief, it's as ridiculous as putting spoiler alerts on the Bible. I was subjected to something similar when a skit I made featuring Thunderbirds that went over some viewers' heads... stop making me feel old, chaps.


It's ridiculous that people would act like they don't know Speedy Gonzales, but if it weren't for seeing Team America: World Police and then having a Thunderbirds DVD catch my eye at my local library there's no way I would have heard ever of it.

Diddlemuffins
10-19-2012, 10:02 AM
How is that "messing up?" He's just giving his opinion and i have no problem with that.

F.Y.I. Sir Fluffykins, that was bugs and lola bunny.

I could have sworn there was a quote to someone talking about the pikachu clip. That, and the Porky Pig thing.

N.P.C.C.
10-19-2012, 10:10 AM
I neglect multi quoting alot and it sometimes screws up who i am trying to address.

Guthix
10-19-2012, 10:26 AM
i dont even know where the porky pig crap came from, was talking about speedy gonzales

BakaLyte39K
10-19-2012, 11:40 AM
As the creator of that Lavos clip, I am geniunely surprised that so many people didn't get it. Like Zarx said, it's a Chrono Trigger tribute, a game I adored when I was a whee little one back in the late 80s/early 90s. I sometimes forget that not everyone had the same experiences as I did growing up. More over, I figured the sheer absuridty of the scene, this red eyed yellow demon goo thing giving a somewhat "epic" scream, then pans out and it's no bigger then a small hosuecat, would incite laughter in those who didn't get the Lavos reference.

As to the watermark, that was very much my bad on that part. My sources are mostly TV Rips, as the DVDs for Acchi Kocchi hadn't been released when I made that clip. The next few clips I plan to submit will all be BD or DVD rips, so there won't be any watermark issues.

Though I may have to scrap the clip I'm working on currently... If this many people didn't get the Lavos reference, I'm willing to bet twice as many won't get the Kefka's laugh reference... Makes me depressed to realize just how old I really am...

kapparomeo
10-19-2012, 11:42 AM
I wouldn't be too worried about the visibility of references, BakaLyte. I've never played Chrono Trigger myself but even so I was fully able to buy into the spooky atmosphere of the music on its own merits. Not everyone will have seen every other media, but skits have their own independent qualities too.

BakaLyte39K
10-19-2012, 12:17 PM
I still have plenty of work to do on it. It's already a five seconds long and I'm not sure if that's good as is or if I should add something else or what...

[EDIT] I've put what I've made so far onto YouTube. If anyone would like to take a look see at it and make a suggestion or something, just send me a PM and I'll zip the link over to you.

adzman
10-19-2012, 03:32 PM
Final Fantasy 6 > Chrono Trigger

Neomalysys
10-19-2012, 10:12 PM
Great episode. Maybe because most of the clips were by the same 2 people.

Kaiju
10-19-2012, 10:47 PM
Final Fantasy 6 > Chrono Trigger


Every other JRPG > Any Final Fantasy

:D

adzman
10-19-2012, 10:54 PM
A kick to the nuts > JRPG's

Kaiju
10-19-2012, 10:55 PM
A kick to the nuts > JRPG's

So it goes A kick to the nuts > JRPG's > Final Fantasy > Chrono Trigger?

adzman
10-19-2012, 10:58 PM
you missed a 6 somewhere in there

p0stal_sean
10-22-2012, 08:02 AM
actually i just found out gangnam is actually a place in south korea. everyone drives ferarris and Bugatti (thank you not my name!) and 24-7 party ima check it out soon seeing as im a few hours away.

ThatsNotMyName_studio
10-22-2012, 02:29 PM
do you mean Bugatti?

p0stal_sean
10-31-2012, 01:07 PM
yes i do thank you, aparantly and quiet obviously i dont know **** about ridicuously expensive cars but yeah thats what i meant.

on a side note i coulda taken the time to at least google the spelling but i figured somebody would correct me. plan on checkin the place out maybe the end of the month if its as expensive as i heard might need to save up some dough before going.