Akyho
05-21-2014, 05:12 PM
So since my little pony friendship is magic became big and Bronies ruined the internet. I saw alot of youtube videos called "MLP MEP" click on it and go "Oh its an AMV without an anime."
Except I would later see "Full metal alchemist MEP".......that is an anime.
Recently I found out it means Mutli Editor Project, so it now made sense. AMV Hell could be called that, I now understand.
Except.....these MEPs I look at, they are not AMVs. What they are is over produced effects and text for the lyrics to the tune of the music with some random anime images and video clips.
The weirder thing......I looked at 5 diffrent makers of which 3 had studio in their name. It all looked the same, yes the music diffrent and the anime is diffrent.
Except the effects are the same......
I ask. What exactly is an MEP? and what is it VS an AMV? What is a good MEP?
VasSerMan7
05-21-2014, 05:13 PM
that's why amv hell sucks, the makers don't have studio in their names
Except.....these MEPs I look at. They are not AMVs. What they are is over produced effects and text for the lyrics to the tune of the music. With some random anime images and video clips.
Sounds like an AMV to me.
I ask. What exactly is an MEP? and what is it VS an AMV? What is a good MEP?
An MEP is a collaboration amongst 2 or more editors in an attempt to make an overproduced video. An AMV usually just involves one guy attempting to make an overproduced video. As for a good one, well, I'm not sure if I'd classify this as "good," but I think this is the best example of an overproduced collaborative effort involving anime footage and motion graphics set to music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dL_uqP1tic
Akyho
05-21-2014, 05:16 PM
We have one user called "Thats not my name studio" so only 99% of amv hell sucks.
I dont see as much overproduction in an actual AMV title....then again I dont see a recent AMV thats not overaly simple in all the bad ways.
MEPs seem to be a diffrent beast like there is a check list
"put a filter over the video to make it pink"
"put lyrics that fold into the video as the singer sings it"
"Use artists drawings of a character and not anime video footage, make it pop in over video"
"actual video footage should not have any correlation to the lyrics and only use it as filler
between effects and text."
I have a studio. It's very elitist and you have to be a quintuple AMV Ace to join, though.
Akyho
05-21-2014, 05:28 PM
Sorry I had to stop watching the example you gave Haar out of fear of developing epilepsy.
VasSerMan7
05-21-2014, 05:30 PM
the trailer is better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCP2zttt6vk
Akyho
05-21-2014, 05:36 PM
These are the five videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFlQqCHk7g0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wtBQRQjsMY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqpTKl1EBc4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPWkhgm1gmc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZdQ-5Akw8k
THEY ALL LOOK ALIKE! Well in what I can see...its mostly motion blur thanks to the swishing about and terrible filters.
Here is an over produced AMV I have liked for years. Its good and an actual AMV while being over produced. Was there more than 1 dude on it I donno.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Raiz5MAb98Q
Also the trailer IS better Vasserman.
Guthix
05-21-2014, 06:22 PM
We have one user called "Thats not my name studio" so only 99% of amv hell sucks.
I dont see as much overproduction in an actual AMV title....then again I dont see a recent AMV thats not overaly simple in all the bad ways.
MEPs seem to be a diffrent beast like there is a check list
"put a filter over the video to make it pink"
"put lyrics that fold into the video as the singer sings it"
"Use artists drawings of a character and not anime video footage, make it pop in over video"
"actual video footage should not have any correlation to the lyrics and only use it as filler
between effects and text."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3BPgyhStLk
amvs also use filthers. invalid.
not the lyrics, thats an actual use of typography
no drawings, sliced out of other pieces of footadge
the correlation only happens when the intensity is low, rest is fighting. lip sync in the climax.
for the record i didnt even know this was a mep, if i recall backmask told me and also added that it was ****. now while its not perfect, in my humble opinion this video does deserve its view count. im only posting this in comparison of the other "mep"'s posted here, and to answer what is one[or atleast towards where theyre meant to go].
Kintaro
05-21-2014, 06:26 PM
this is why I stick to watching MADs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIvzcncvepc
Guthix
05-21-2014, 06:30 PM
this is why I stick to watching MADs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIvzcncvepc
then gtfo, this is not a mad site
Kintaro
05-21-2014, 06:36 PM
then gtfo, this is not a mad site
It's not your fault.
Akyho
05-21-2014, 06:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3BPgyhStLk
amvs also use filthers. invalid.
not the lyrics, thats an actual use of typography
no drawings, sliced out of other pieces of footadge
the correlation only happens when the intensity is low, rest is fighting. lip sync in the climax.
.
I didnt mean exclusively. Just that some of these things seemed MANDATORY for an MEP while for an AMV its optional.
Some of my terminology was off.
Guthix
05-21-2014, 06:47 PM
It's not your fault.
eat **** and die?
I didnt mean exclusively. Just that some of these things seemed MANDATORY for an MEP while for an AMV its optional.
Some of my terminology was off.
well if you got the patience to look, org seems to set alot of rules, they might have something of a standart
Akyho
05-21-2014, 06:50 PM
I will have to check that out. Maybe they have my answers.
thedarkmessenger
05-21-2014, 07:05 PM
One thing I never understood is why people think that "effects in videos" automatically = "BEST VIDEO EVER!!!!!"
If done PROPERLY, effects are actually pretty damn cool and add a lot to the MEP/AMV (which is probably why so many want to use them at all in the first place....). The problem is that 99% of these things just throw in as many effects as possible at complete and total random with no purpose whatsoever apart from "being one of the cool kids". I'd rather watch a decent AMV with no effects than a ****ty one filled with "all the stock effects Windows Movie Maker can handle!!!!" That being said, all of my favorite MEP's/AMV's have at least one effect in them, DONE PROPERLY AND TIMED WITH INTENTION.
Sadly, such videos are so few and far between compared to "just decent" non-effect ones (which are few and far between themselves....) that everytime I see a video will have effects in it, I've already dismissed it as "yet another ****ty MEP/AMV made by a retarded idiot". On the rare occasion where I actually bother to look for AMV's to watch, I'll pretty much avoid any that use effects as much as I can.
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