[NodMan]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=1440&bih=769&q=8.9+earthquake+japan&aq=2v&aqi=g1g-v2&aql=&oq=8.9+earth

[humnut]

yeah, i'm under tsunami warning right now. kinda exhilarating.

[NodMan]

Like I said all you'll get is about a 10 foot tall wave.

[humnut]

surfs up bro

[jinzo64]

poor japan it looks pretty bad.
we should send some sandbags or maybe hobnobs.

[animemental1]

Oh dear. I hope they can get out of this easily. (Knowing it's Japan, i'm sure they'll persevere.)

[XelaisPWN]

Yeah, I heard about this, thanks to twitter....
my heart goes out to the people of Japan.

[humnut]

if theres a relief effort (which i'm sure there will be) i'm gonna try and volunteer, see if i can help.

[animemental1]

^ This. Seriously.

[mattroks101]

This is the 3rd time I've read about this. I pray for those poor people there. I wish I could do something to help them :(

[jinzo64]

i hope there is some kind of relief effort for japan
hit by an earthquake,tsunami and now flooding.

[hosokawa37]

I have a hosted 2 Japanese exchange students before [for about a week each], plus I have a few friends over there. There are all mostly located in Tokyo and places north of Tokyo. I do hope they are okay, along with my Japanese teachers' families, and the rest of Japan.

[humnut]

well, i'm not sure on how bad the whole island is, but its possible that any new anime may be put on hold.

[jinzo64]

it's unlikly that the anime industry will be damage to the extent that it will be put in jeopardy.
but quite a lot of coastal towns and buisness are in for serious loses after being hit by a 30 foot wall of water.
i hope the people that were effected will be o.k.
as far as i'm aware major cities like osaka and tokyo got out unharmed.

[flamingbambi]

I thought Tokyo was the main area of damage? with the tsunami especially.

Anyway, I hope there aren't too many casualties. My heart goes out to them too.

[Pain]

my mind goes to japan
i hope they can win this fight :(

http://ug6.kwick.de/ug/0428/6022/64564136_full,r,470x470.jpg

I wish i could do something

:(

[jinzo64]

no i think it was mainly the earthquake but i know the tusnami did a lot of damage but i don't think it hit tokyo.

[humnut]

I think the tsunami hit north, didn't it. Idk the news changes their story every five minutes its hard to keep track. the u.s. military is already getting a huge humanitarian effort underway, so at least thats something. but if its another katrina. . .

[jinzo64]

hopfully thing won't get that bad.
but i know japan is asking for international aid.
hopfully they'll get it asap.

[humnut]

well, japans a huge economic power, so theyre gonna get help.

[jinzo64]

that's true
sadly at last count 300 + people have lost there lives but there will sadly be more from other remote islands in the pacific.

[flamingbambi]

Apparently Japan are brilliant when it comes to such emergencies (obviously because they're used to them).
Their construction standards are brilliant and they have well-developed emergency procedures. I'm sure they'll work hard together to get things back to normal.

[jinzo64]

i know a lot there buildings are designed to withstand earth quakes but it hard to defend against somthing like a tsunamni.

[animemental1]

I agree with bambi. Japan not only has the resources, but Japan also has the willpower and the abikity to stay calm in bad situations.

[Backmask]

http://plixi.com/p/83217406#
Poor thing didn't stand a chance.

[LOLWTFBBQ]

I wish I was in the Army now, cuz I would prolly be stationed over in Japan, which would mean I would be helping them out

[flamingbambi]

Just read an article on the Red Cross site. Apparently Japan has not asked for international assistance. So even if we could help and donate, they may not even need it. I hope this means they have everything under control.

[animemental1]

It's Japan. They're the world leaders in technology. I have faith that they can manage themselves.

[LOLWTFBBQ]

if they are leaders in tech, why cant they make any video games with good graphics?

Japan mostly just likes to be self-reliant, its just in their culture. they have so much pride they dont want to look like whiners asking for help.

[AKALink]

I'm praying for the country right now. They need prayer.

[LOLWTFBBQ]

I'm praying for the country right now. They need prayer.

Im with you on that one

[scarmullet]

I dont think they need prayer. Two hands are more useful clasped around a shovel, than clasped together in prayer.

I kind of worry about them, the damage may be a bit overwhelming, with their socialist economy. But they should persevere.

[Kira2521]

Think of it this way. The ocean is tired of waiting for people to go to the beach so it's decided to bring the party to them.

[XxFabiGBxX]

Tsunami alert!

I will die about 9:30 pm GTM: -4...

[jinzo64]

i hope the english goverment does somthing to help the japenese

[stinkyfranki]

Wtf! Was I the only one who heard about this and thought, Tokyo Magnitude 8.0?

[Kira2521]

The whole worlds really going to hell lately. Floods in Australia, Earthquake in Japan, i've even heard the whales have ended up on beaches a lot and birds just dropping out of the sky, dead.

[jinzo64]

you forgot the tsumani that hit japan and the fires
and i heard the cooling system in nuclear power station near tokyo has shut down.

[Kaiju]

The whole worlds really going to hell lately. Floods in Australia, Earthquake in Japan, i've even heard the whales have ended up on beaches a lot and birds just dropping out of the sky, dead.

All true but the birds, the birds were drunk because they drank waste water from a alchohol refinery.

Still, Japan is pretty ****ed up right now.

Well, at least the good thing is that Toho will make another Godzilla movie now, is it sad that I can see it happening?

[acutekat]

I think Japan will be alright, they are probably the most earthquake proof country in the world. That being said I hope they get all the help they need

[animemental1]

Wtf! Was I the only one who heard about this and thought, Tokyo Magnitude 8.0?

Actually, I thought the same thing too just a couple of hours ago.


The whole worlds really going to hell lately. Floods in Australia, Earthquake in Japan, i've even heard the whales have ended up on beaches a lot and birds just dropping out of the sky, dead.

This.

[XxFabiGBxX]

All true but the birds, the birds were drunk because they drank waste water from a alchohol refinery.

xD can't imagine drunken birds falling from the sky

[Darthelm]

the earthquake was caused by the first space colony being launched from japan :p

[Backmask]

Two nuclear cores are damaged and are about to meltdown within the hour. Well, according to this: http://www.businessinsider.com/fukushima-nuclear-plant-2011-3
If so, Japan, you're now Chernobyl 2.0

[Darthelm]

its all that damn gundam testing i tell you what

[acutekat]

Not gonna be Chernobyl 2.0

Chernobyl was caused by gross soviet incompetence and lack of safety features.

Even if there is a leak it won't be a bad one. I HIGHLY doubt that anyone will be aversely affected by this. Granted it will be a good idea to shut down the reactor and fix it all while wearing lead lined clothing, but japan is not gonna lose Tokyo to a cloud of nuclear toxins. It takes nearly 100 rads to begin showing the signs of radiation poisoning. even 1000X normal rad levels is still in the millirad levels

[NodMan]

I think Japan will be alright, they are probably the most earthquake proof country in the world. That being said I hope they get all the help they need

You can "Earthquake Proof" as much as you want. When that 15,000+ ton wall of water hits your building, there is little you can do to stop that.


There's no evidence of any radioactive leakage, but officials have confirmed that the cooling process for the nuclear plant has not yet gone according to plan.

It is the cooling process that is in question here. Because of fail-safes designed to shut the plant and lower the rods during an Earthquake. Those fail-safes seem to be what is the problem now.

[Backmask]

I'm just glad to hear that Norio Wakamoto, the epitome of manliness, is still alive. He survived all of the **** that went down in Japan, and what does he do?

wakamoto let a few friends know he was ok, that he is busy helping people and searching for people buried under the debris
I haven't heard much about any voice actor or author being announced dead, but there are rumors of Konosuke Uda, the man who made One Piece, and Gosho Aoyama, the man who made Case Closed, being dead.

[thedarkmessenger]

earthquake and tsunami's in japan? WHAT ABOUT MY ANIMEZ?! Dx

[MADEVIL]

Its crazy over there right now, I have a cousin who lives over there that made it so far but they are worried about the power plant.

[Antonio Black]

Segata Sanshiro will handle it.

[jinzo64]

i hope they manage to sort the problem with the power plant out.

but it's not just anime what about the games industry i hope nintendo are o.k.

[NodMan]

Well the outer wall of the Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant collapsed after a secondary explosion.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/12/fukushima-nuclear-blast-japan-alert

[Evileel]

Reactor's chamber itself is not damaged yet. However part of its cooling devices are malfunctioning, thus workers must cool down a reactor directly:

it became necessary to release radioactive steam to relieve pressure that could cause an explosion
Thus this have increased radiation levels by 8 times in plant's territory, what is very little (it needs to be over 100,000 to kill a human).

Read it yourself. Thanks MCdigitalP@in for the link: ^_^
http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-japan-quake-nuclear-20110312,0,7065294.story


Also some interesting info, which I have already posted in chatbox:

Chernobyl NPP was built in 1977, while Fukushima NPP in 1971. So it uses older technologies than Chernobyl.

plants use some of the oldest nuclear technology, dating to the 1960s. "These first-generation boiling-water reactors have the least margin of safety of any reactor design"

[NodMan]

Yes but Chernobyl was built like a toy factory, Fukushima was built like an Earthquake resistant Nuclear Power Plant.

[Evileel]

Chernobyl NPP wasnt earthquake resistant, but there were no strong earthquakes in Ukraine.
However now its obvious that Fukushima NPP is not earthquake proof enough itself.

[Doomimus]

Here's a list of groups to which you can donate via text: http://dontmesswithtaxes.typepad.com/dont_mess_with_taxes/2011/03/texting-japan-earthquake-donations.html

Japan actually hasn't asked for anyone's help (not yet, anyway), but I donated a little money to the Red Cross just in case.

[Guthix]

if it doesnt kill it doesnt mean your skin wont crumble off

[Bill Ein]

If so, Japan, you're now Chernobyl 2.0
Three Mile Island 3.0

[Chewi105]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IM_58JDpmJQ/TDMyuhIOdSI/AAAAAAAAAn0/PRn6DkVLgSE/s1600/whygodwhy-yotsuba.jpg

[NodMan]

Chernobyl NPP wasnt earthquake resistant, but there were no strong earthquakes in Ukraine.
However now its obvious that Fukushima NPP is not earthquake proof enough itself.

You can't make anything "Proof" to anything. All you can do is hope that you are building it Resistant enough to withstand what is going to be thrown at it. At the time the Fukushima Plant was probably one of the best around. However ever 5-10 years you don't build a new Nuclear Power Plant to replace the obsolete one just because of better building techniques and materials.


Three Mile Island 2.0

At the worst situation, yes. Wasn't nearly as bad as Chernobyl, but still bad.

[Veran]

Chernobyl NPP was built in 1977, while Fukushima NPP in 1971. So it uses older technologies than Chernobyl.

Maybe they had the plans since the late fifties. It was the soviets...

Anyway: wiki has it. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBMK) Some words on soviet boiling water reactors. By all accounts a sophisticated design - unless you decide, like a moron, to disable all the safety features and start playing around with it.

Plans for a BWR of the type making problems. (http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/basic-ref/teachers/03.pdf) Now you can make your own.

According to CNN (http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/12/japan.nuclear/?hpt=T1) some 10 other reactors have shut down automatically, (and I quote: In all, the earthquake prompted the automatic shutdown of 10 reactors at three nuclear plants near the quake site, Japan's nuclear agency said.) leading me to think that those at least are the modern type in which the control rods are held in place with electro-magnets, powered by the reactor's own electricity.

That, BTW, is a safety feature that requires weapons grade levels of stupidity, ingenuity and a team of construction workers to disable.

Basically, those 10 can't physically melt down.

(Yes, the awesome exploding reactor over there seems to me to be of the old type that can cause a China syndrome - which again begs the question: can you call it a China syndrome if China isn't on the other side of the planet?)

[Chewi105]

so, japan has had an earthquake, followed by a tsunami, trailed by a nuclear power plant failure?
once again:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IM_58JDpmJQ/TDMyuhIOdSI/AAAAAAAAAn0/PRn6DkVLgSE/s1600/whygodwhy-yotsuba.jpg

[XelaisPWN]

It's difficult to make those power plants safer these days. People don't want to sink money into that sort of thing, because they're dangerous. So we have to keep them dangerous so we stay safe.

....wait

[Chewi105]

http://diseaseoftheweek.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/exploding_head_.jpg

[acutekat]

It's difficult to make those power plants safer these days. People don't want to sink money into that sort of thing, because they're dangerous. So we have to keep them dangerous so we stay safe.

....wait

They're not dangerous, no more dangerous than any other power plant, even less so because other power plants dump tons of toxins into the air. nuclear power plants just dump steam into the air. People don't want to sink money into nuclear power plant because the safety standards are ridiculous ( you have to bury all of the tools that were used to construct the building, before any radioactive material has been introduced) and the word nuclear scares people. There have so far been THREE count 'em ( Chernobyl, which was really bad, Three Mile Island, not that bad, and this one, which I don't think is gonna get that bad) 1 2 3, accidents in nuclear power plants, one occurring two days ago. I don't think I know any other industry with such a safety record.

[XelaisPWN]

No, dude, I totally agree with you. I was being massively sarcastic xD

Coal mines are way more dangerous than any nuclear power plant, but for some reason the general public seems to think otherwise. :\

[acutekat]

cause the general public is stupid. I've almost never met anyone I would say is devoid of intelligence but you get more than 15 people together and everyone's IQ drops to 2

[NodMan]

It is like that old saying, "Human beings are smart. People are dumb, ignorant, fearful creatures."

[jinzo64]

nuclear power plants themselves arn't dangerous but the radiom that is used is very dangerous and isn't useful forever it eventual burns out but still has residual radation which hangs around for around a hundred years so it is buried in large lead lined conncrete containers.
so nuclear energy has it benerfits and negetif points.

[NodMan]

Don't forget that the water used to cool the rods also has to be put in radiation quarantine.

[jinzo64]

realy i thought they just topped up the same water.
i didn't know it was replaced.

[Chewi105]

if these plants, say, leak, could there be a mass affect to the ecosystem in the ocean? ex: godzilla? or, has there been no proof the nuclear substances cannot "mutate" life?

[Backmask]

The death toll from Japan's devastating earthquake and tsunami on Friday is expected to exceed 10,000, Japanese news services announced Sunday.

There are already 1,300 confirmed dead and 10,000 people are missing in just one town.

http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i437/BackmaskJR/79d3f075.jpg

[Evileel]

All those meaningless deaths sounds really sad.
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/2227/madokasayaka10.jpg

[animemental1]

Inorite?

[Veran]

... you get more than 15 people together and everyone's IQ drops to 2

The joke goes thus:

To calculate the intelligence of a committee, you take the IQ of the smartest member, and divide it by the number of committee members.

Now, the IQ scale is forced into a pattern where 100 is always the middle, 68% of everybody is between 90-110, 95% are between 80-120, and 5% are beyond that - there being a floor effect at 25, and anything above 140 has no meaning. Anyone measured under 75 is a moron. (Every time they check, they find that yes, you have to have an extra chromosome to get that low.)

So, given an abnormally bright committee member would be IQ 120, and the memebrs in the committee would be 4... 30. They hit the floor. Retarded.


nuclear power plants themselves arn't dangerous but the radiom that is used is very dangerous and isn't useful forever it eventual burns out but still has residual radation which hangs around for around a hundred years so it is buried in large lead lined conncrete containers.
so nuclear energy has it benerfits and negetif points.

Well...

Radium? I thought they used uranium and plutonium. I can see where they would get radium from that though. But I'm no scientist.

According to my sources, America has some very primitive reactors because of some regulations prohibiting the use of the waste - basically, used uranium. There is a system being tested, breeder reactors (in France, that) that uses this depleted uranium.

What happens is this: a regular reactor first uses up the uranium, this takes 20+ years. Then the uranium would be shaped into some new pellets on site, and put in the breeder reactor, which uses it for... dunno, 300 years. Perhaps more.

The Chinese just finished the development of reactors that don't rely on the breeder tech, and can use regular fuel pellets for 100+ years.

The Chinese!


Don't forget that the water used to cool the rods also has to be put in radiation quarantine.

Fascinating. How do they get the radiation out of it?

[acutekat]

Fascinating. How do they get the radiation out of it?

Well, the actual explanation of how the water is irradiated is a little off.

The two types of generating electrical power (meaning how they turn the turbine, not how they create fission) from a nuclear power plant that i have heard of are either the water interacts freely with the radioactive part of the plant, becoming hotter and rising to the top of the chamber spinning the turbine (also radioactive ) and then cooling back down and dropping towards the hot reactor again, this is of course all sealed off and inaccessible when operational. The other type I've heard of is where there are two chambers both with water in them. Chamber 1 has sort of the same configuration as example one but does not contain the turbine. Chamber 2 contains the water that will be heated by the radioactive steam (through heating elements) and then used to spin the turbine.
Source: the nuclear energy merit badge.


Also: footage from the tsunami: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12725646

[Zarxrax]

Possibly hundreds of thousands of people have lost everything that they own.
They don't even have drinking water in some areas.

Donations to the red cross or other reputable organizations could go a long way.

[jinzo64]

thats very true donations could go along way but i havn't seen anything about how to donate money to japan

[Zarxrax]

http://american.redcross.org

[jinzo64]

good call i'll totaly donate when i've checked my moneys see how much i can donate

[Darthelm]

dont do it! the red cross is ****ing pathetic they charge the people they "help" for the things they need

[NodMan]

http://gizmodo.com/#!5781566/this-is-the-scariest-first+person-video-of-the-japan-tsunami-yet

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-03-12/world/japan.earthquake.tsunami.earth_1_tsunami-usgs-geophysicist-quake?_s=PM:WORLD

[thedarkmessenger]

dont do it! the red cross is ****ing pathetic they charge the people they "help" for the things they need

...seriously? O_O

[Kaiju]

http://gizmodo.com/#!5781566/this-is-the-scariest-first+person-video-of-the-japan-tsunami-yet

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-03-12/world/japan.earthquake.tsunami.earth_1_tsunami-usgs-geophysicist-quake?_s=PM:WORLD

holy crap. Earth's Axis? **** got real.

[Leef]

Now Japan is having a nuclear disaster and Tokyo is running out of food.
Im starting to feel sorry for them now.

[thedarkmessenger]

1 punch 2 punch 3 punch 4...

[Darthelm]

...seriously? O_O

yes seriously, i had a history teacher who, while in Vietnam he saw a red cross member offer a wounded solider a blanket and cigs then told him that he had to pay for it, they are greedy ass holes

[thedarkmessenger]

Is there ANY charity that can be trusted? Dx

[Darthelm]

nope

[thedarkmessenger]

D8

[XelaisPWN]

yes seriously, i had a history teacher who, while in Vietnam he saw a red cross member offer a wounded solider a blanket and cigs then told him that he had to pay for it, they are greedy ass holes

...so, a single individual was seen doing something greedy ~40 years ago? And that makes the whole organization bad?

Don't get me wrong. There are selfish and greedy people involved in the red cross. And they've been known for their share of selfish acts. But this isn't good evidence as to *why* they are greedy assholes. It would have been smarter of you to bring up katrina. (http://bbc.in/fd8UrK) :\

...aww, jeez, I'm not helping the relief fund, am I?

[jinzo64]

not realy but people need help and hopfully the donated money will used in a sensible and effective way.
so we should all donate.

[thedarkmessenger]

^with what money? D: and to what charity? O_o I'm not sure who to believe, atm...

[jinzo64]

when you get some you could donate.

i'd go with the red cross.
i'm not so sure about going through crunchy roll especially with the donation time limit now less than 5 hours.

[thedarkmessenger]

My money is usually gone before I get to spend it :P

[jinzo64]

let me guess bills and rent or mortage.

[thedarkmessenger]

yup -_-. I also need to buy cat food, garbage bags, a better mic...on the bright side, I can probably take some out of my video game moneyz :D

[jinzo64]

yeah thats what i'm doing not buying somthing so i can donate

[thedarkmessenger]

I still have waaaay too many games to go through xD Buying more just means I have to play more at the same time :P

[Chewi105]

well, this hath gone off topic

[thedarkmessenger]

doesn't every topic go off topic? :P

[jinzo64]

it's never intentional
we were dicussing the difficulties of donating to japan when you have no money to give.

[Doomimus]

There's also Mercy Corps: http://www.mercycorps.org/

Haven't found anything shady on this organization, 'course that's no guarantee that there isn't. I think in the end, it's really a crap shoot.

[Pain]

Everything in Sendai is broken. The Tsunami has pulled down the city....

only one thing survived ...

http://secret-anime.cwsurf.de/sendai_sofa_DW_Ver_1334819s.jpg



THE COUCH!

I dont thinks the situation is funny but thats rteally crazy >>

[Darthelm]

just tell me http://www.odditycentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/japan-gundam.jpg this survived

[Backmask]

I'm sorry, but the broken link did not survive.

[Darthelm]

there is no broken link, there is a pic

[Evileel]

The broken link is a lie.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh124/ImaginexWhispers/random/ljpg.jpg

[Backmask]

just tell me http://www.odditycentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/japan-gundam.jpg this survived

You tell me if it survived or not.
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i437/BackmaskJR/x2_4f5cbfe.jpg

[Darthelm]

http://www.bloodsprayer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/darth-vader-noooo.jpg

[Chewi105]

well, our only hopes are: Godzilla, the Eva Units, and/or the Transformers squad.

[Kaiju]

well, our only hopes are: Godzilla, the Eva Units, and/or the Transformers squad.

Godzilla is a force of a nature in his own right. He's probably wrestling that Tsunami monster in a Toho backlot right now, lol.

The Evas...well as I said before, weapon of war vs. mother Nature...mother nature wins.

[synbad2]

you can hate me if you wish but according to bleachologists.... >_< ..... the earthquake was caused by Kenpachi Zaraki learning his Zanpakuto's name

[Backmask]

you can hate me if you wish but according to bleachologists.... >_< ..... the earthquake was caused by Kenpachi Zaraki learning his Zanpakuto's name

According to Wan Pissologists, it was caused by Whitebeard breaking the fourth wall.

[Chewi105]

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4691/fuuuuuuuu.jpg
http://newarkairportsucks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/fuuuuuu.jpg

[Guthix]

happy time

[Chewi105]

>( i was looking forward to that too, dammit